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What oath did she swear???

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#1 by josealvesjr » Sat Oct 09, 2021 16:46

Nurses just as doctors take an oath and also swear that they will protect their patients. The nursing oath is administered to the nurses during the graduation ceremony.

A nurse in Concord, New Hampshire is prepared to lose her nursing job rather than get vaccinated.
She states "my beliefs are religious". I believe that my creator endowed me with an immune system that protects me, and if I get sick, that's an act of God." I would not take a medicine that affects the immune system," she said.
How can she combines this with her profession? Isn´t there any conflict between these beliefs and her job? She certainly will not administer covid19 vaccines. I wouldn´t like be in or under her care.
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#2 by valerie » Sat Oct 09, 2021 17:06

Just because you are a nurse does not mean you have common sense.

I've worked with a lot of weirdo nurses in my life.
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#3 by tasman1 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 17:23

josealvesr...Your post is ONE side of coin

Let see ANOTHER side,,,, and my proof that world will terminate all who do not take vaccine

A woman with stage five renal failure has been given 30 days to get the Covid-19 vaccine or she will be removed from her hospital’s kidney transplant list.

Leilani Lutali was only months away from getting a new kidney but now she and her donor Jaimee Fougner are scrambling to find a new hospital after being alerted to the new vaccination policy, according to CBS News.

UCHealth has implemented rules which require the majority of transplant recipients and living donors to be vaccinated against COVID-19.

To cut iT short ............. non vaccinated people will be terminated......... oath to save life ????? not on this planet
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#4 by Darkstar2 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 18:15

josealvesjr wrote: Nurses just as doctors take an oath and also swear that they will protect their patients. The nursing oath is administered to the nurses during the graduation ceremony.

yeah and people say YES I DO to in sickness and in health, for richer or poorer, till death do us part, so much for that - ad yet divorce rate is at nearly 75% if not more :D Doctors have the hippocratic oath, so much for that, doctors don't abide by that at all, never have, they treat patients based on the money they make, based on their wallet, nurses are not as bad, after all they under doctors and are pressured by the doctors, sometimes shitty too. It's fine to have religious convictions and beliefs, but if they are not compatible with the medical profession, then you should not work in that field or be allowed AT ALL to work in that field, because you cannot possibly follow your oath if it goes against your beliefs, it can also be DANGEROUS as nurses could put those beliefs in practice and risk the lives of patients. There were cases of anti vaccine nurses administering saline solutions instead of the actual vaccine there are too many shitty doctors and nurses out there, and they are only caught after they take the lives of patients first. She is right about one thing, God gave us an immune system, and yes in THEORY our body has the power to fight disease and protects us, and daily our body fights cancerous cells, all that is true, but she forgot to mention that God also gave us free will, humane took the wrong decisions and through evolution our immune system has become weaker, for some reason due to people's lifestyle and gene, our "programming" gets corrupted and our cells go haywire and our immune systems can no longer protect us, God gave us originally an efficient system, but we messed it up God cannot control that because of the free will part, so much for her messed up beliefs, it's because of QUACKS like her that the pandemic will last a few more years. she should NOT practice nursing - I have seen too many YouTubes of nurses and doctors preaching AGAINST COVID19 vaccines, even as far as contacting their patients to discourage them, now that is equivalent to MURDER, so if she is a believer, she should know that one of ten commandments is though shall not kill. :D
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#5 by Darkstar2 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 18:16

valerie wrote: Just because you are a nurse does not mean you have common sense.

I've worked with a lot of weirdo nurses in my life.

Yeah I guess Jose has not seen One Flew Over the Cuckoo's nest :lol:
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#6 by Darkstar2 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 18:28

tasman1 wrote:

Let see ANOTHER side,,,, and my proof that world will terminate all who do not take vaccine

ahahaha that would be ideal - they should have done this a year ago :P Anyhow, they are already are doing this now kinda, without the killing part :P It's called vaccination passport - you are excluded from doing all non essential activities - BUT you still get to keep your liberty, people should be THANKFUL that vaccination is not compulsory, and yet people still cry and complain, they should go in China and try to practice their disobedience and see what happens there. People have a right to make decisions about that, FINE, so with decisions comes consequences, nobody is gonna terminate nobody :D Today it is vaccination passports, tomorrow it might be FEMA camps and complete isolation - right now those people are terrorists, they are the ONLY reason this pandemic is never going to end they are the ONLY reason vaccination is a SHAM - now variants are destroying vaccine efficacy and not only that, had everybody taken their bloody vaccine at once, we would have reached herd immunity before the ******mned variants came into play - Now herd immunity is impossible, it's out of the picture, even at 100% vaccination.

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A woman with stage five renal failure has been given 30 days to get the Covid-19 vaccine or she will be removed from her hospital’s kidney transplant list.

Leilani Lutali was only months away from getting a new kidney but now she and her donor Jaimee Fougner are scrambling to find a new hospital after being alerted to the new vaccination policy, according to CBS News.

UCHealth has implemented rules which require the majority of transplant recipients and living donors to be vaccinated against COVID-19.

To cut iT short ............. non vaccinated people will be terminated......... oath to save life ????? not on this planet

So people willing to DIE by refusing vaccines or treatments, how different is it to SUICIDE ?
They are dying based on false information - they are no different than ISIS or other terrorist groups prepared to die based on f***ed up beliefs and delusions that they are going to end in paradise for their murderer ! Boy are they gonna be disappointed !!!
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#7 by tasman1 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 18:35

Darkstar2 wrote:
tasman1 wrote:

Let see ANOTHER side,,,, and my proof that world will terminate all who do not take vaccine

ahahaha that would be ideal - they should have done this a year ago :P Anyhow, they are already are doing this now kinda, without the killing part :P It's called vaccination passport - you are excluded from doing all non essential activities - BUT you still get to keep your liberty, people should be THANKFUL that vaccination is not compulsory, and yet people still cry and complain, they should go in China and try to practice their disobedience and see what happens there. People have a right to make decisions about that, FINE, so with decisions comes consequences, nobody is gonna terminate nobody :D Today it is vaccination passports, tomorrow it might be FEMA camps and complete isolation - right now those people are terrorists, they are the ONLY reason this pandemic is never going to end they are the ONLY reason vaccination is a SHAM - now variants are destroying vaccine efficacy and not only that, had everybody taken their bloody vaccine at once, we would have reached herd immunity before the ******mned variants came into play - Now herd immunity is impossible, it's out of the picture, even at 100% vaccination.

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A woman with stage five renal failure has been given 30 days to get the Covid-19 vaccine or she will be removed from her hospital’s kidney transplant list.

Leilani Lutali was only months away from getting a new kidney but now she and her donor Jaimee Fougner are scrambling to find a new hospital after being alerted to the new vaccination policy, according to CBS News.

UCHealth has implemented rules which require the majority of transplant recipients and living donors to be vaccinated against COVID-19.

To cut iT short ............. non vaccinated people will be terminated......... oath to save life ????? not on this planet

So people willing to DIE by refusing vaccines or treatments, how different is it to SUICIDE ?
They are dying based on false information - they are no different than ISIS or other terrorist groups prepared to die based on f***ed up beliefs and delusions that they are going to end in paradise for their murderer ! Boy are they gonna be disappointed !!!



And people who sign to enter army , same as suicide .... why help them ???????????????
And people who smoke . they know what will happen to them them ....why help them
Or people on drugs or alcohol .... why help them
Or peoplewho are fat .... why help them ????
or , or , or , or ................

B.T.W. Are YOU vaccinated ???
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#8 by Arvind9 » Sat Oct 09, 2021 20:22

Many people in India have only taken the first dose of the vaccine and opted not to take the second,thats why in 9 months only 19% of the population is vaccinated,you dont really need a vaccination certificate because Covid19 guidelines are all crap,people traveling to other parts of India need two doses of the vaccine or a RTPC Covid19 test 72 hours prior to traveling people are taking the test it costs Rs300 and it shows if a person is positive or negative if its negative one can travel,but a person fully vaccinated does not need any test but could be carrying the virus so a test is more reliable than the vaccine thats why prefer the test everyone understands that a fully vaccinated person could still be carrying the virus and will spread it much more easily these Covid19 guidelines are all rubbish
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#9 by valerie » Sun Oct 10, 2021 13:13

There is more than may meet the eye in regards to nurses being fired for not taking the jabs.

For starters, it's not just nurses. People that work in health care facilities are to be vaccinated.
That's everyone from x-ray techs to housekeeping.

Personally, I think it would be rather lame if not downright stupid for healthcare facilities not to
require employees to be vaccinated. Health care facilities exist to prevent disease and help people
live a better life, prevent pain and death, etc. So to allow employees to not be vaccinated, yet
come into close contact with the sickly and newborn, would be completely outrageous.

Vaccinations for the most part, no matter what it is for, is not a cure all, is not a prevent all, it is
an aid in preventing and an aid into life protection.

It's time for me to get my yearly flu shot. Does that mean I will not get the flu? Does that mean
I will not spread the flu to someone else? Does that mean I won't die from the flu? Taking the flu
shot means that I have a very likely chance of not getting the flu at all. It also means that if I do
get the flu, I may have very few symptoms. In fact, it may be possible for me to get the flu and
my symptoms be so weak, I don't even recognize I have the flu. Altho extremely doubtful I will
pass on the flu virus to someone else, there is the possibility I could.

I truly do not understand the people that refuse to be vaccinated against covid. Many are dying
and regretting not getting the vaccine. Many on their death bed begging to be vaccinated but it's
too late!!!

I'm thankful I live in a time period with science that can in fact develop vaccines to help in the aid
and prevention of disease.
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#10 by Darkstar2 » Sun Oct 10, 2021 17:12

tasman1 wrote:
And people who sign to enter army , same as suicide .... why help them ???????????????
And people who smoke . they know what will happen to them them ....why help them
Or people on drugs or alcohol .... why help them
Or peoplewho are fat .... why help them ????
or , or , or , or ................

That's mixing apples, oranges, grapefruits and turnips :mrgreen:

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B.T.W. Are YOU vaccinated ???

ahahahaha wouldn't be ironic if I wasn't :P I thought I had mentioned it a few times, yes I am, fully vaccinated, glad I did because here we have vaccination passport, all non essential activities are off limits unless you are fully vaccinated. If you go to a restaurant, gym, sports, etc, etc, you need your QR code :D Yes I am fully vaccinated, I even mentioned my experience, first time around I felt the needle really badly, second time didn't feel a thing :D I must admit though, and I already said it before, I almost did not get vaccinated, I am not strong on vaccines, if not for the variants, I probably would not have :D having seen family members and their friends get struck by strong covid and many friends of relatives die of it, and my fear of hospitals and tubes, etc, I decided what the heck, a few seconds of needle pain and 2-3 days of severe sore arms and fever and whole body ache was well worth it in the end :D

and what about YOU, you are probably not vaccinated, why should you be, you live on an Island where only 2 have been infected since beginning of pandemic :lol:
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#11 by Darkstar2 » Sun Oct 10, 2021 17:15

Arvind9 wrote: Many people in India have only taken the first dose of the vaccine and opted not to take the second

Sorry to say this but this is absolutely unacceptable and SILLY. One dose of vaccine does not cut it, might as well not get vaccinated at all. It takes BOTH doses for FULL immunity, with one dose the level of protection is VERY weak and wanes off rapidly - the vaccines were studied and formulated in a way that it requires both doses to prime your immunity, otherwise they would have designed the vaccine for one dose with more RNA. Ridiculous, people there are clearly misinformed - why bother going through the 1st dose of a vaccine when you know very well that you need both doses. and 19% coverage is ridiculous - with variants circulating, you need above 90%, and herd immunity is impossible now with variants, a densely populated country with such low coverage this is a DISASTER.
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#12 by tasman1 » Sun Oct 10, 2021 17:26

Darkstar2 wrote:
tasman1 wrote:
And people who sign to enter army , same as suicide .... why help them ???????????????
And people who smoke . they know what will happen to them them ....why help them
Or people on drugs or alcohol .... why help them
Or peoplewho are fat .... why help them ????
or , or , or , or ................

That's mixing apples, oranges, grapefruits and turnips :mrgreen:

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B.T.W. Are YOU vaccinated ???

ahahahaha wouldn't be ironic if I wasn't :P I thought I had mentioned it a few times, yes I am, fully vaccinated, glad I did because here we have vaccination passport, all non essential activities are off limits unless you are fully vaccinated. If you go to a restaurant, gym, sports, etc, etc, you need your QR code :D Yes I am fully vaccinated, I even mentioned my experience, first time around I felt the needle really badly, second time didn't feel a thing :D I must admit though, and I already said it before, I almost did not get vaccinated, I am not strong on vaccines, if not for the variants, I probably would not have :D having seen family members and their friends get struck by strong covid and many friends of relatives die of it, and my fear of hospitals and tubes, etc, I decided what the heck, a few seconds of needle pain and 2-3 days of severe sore arms and fever and whole body ache was well worth it in the end :D

and what about YOU, you are probably not vaccinated, why should you be, you live on an Island where only 2 have been infected since beginning of pandemic :lol:



No I am not vaccinated , have some heart problem , GP say he is not sure what , must see specialist
Shit that is a problem , they ask for few test 8-10000 that I do not have , they told me ... doctors are not charity
GP say he can not put me on waiting list if I do not have that test [ few test ]
He told me same as specialist .... it is my fault if I am not rich

COVID health hotline told me simple ..... we do not care , get vaccinated

yes amigo , this is Australia [ new Australia , it was not like this before covid

All what is left for poor in Australia is GP , if he can help OK if not die like dog
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#13 by Darkstar2 » Sun Oct 10, 2021 17:42

valerie wrote: There is more than may meet the eye in regards to nurses being fired for not taking the jabs.

For starters, it's not just nurses. People that work in health care facilities are to be vaccinated.
That's everyone from x-ray techs to housekeeping.

It's logical, if you work in a hospital or any facility where patients are treated, you must be vaccinated, if only nurses and doctors are vaccinated, but the cafeteria lady (or guy) is not vaccinated, all it takes is one carrier to cause an outbreak - it's kind of strange to see NURSES or DOCTORS refusing vaccines, and YET they are the ones complaining of having to work 16-20 hour shift and overflowing of patients, kinda ironic and hypocritical at the same time !

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Personally, I think it would be rather lame if not downright stupid for healthcare facilities not to
require employees to be vaccinated. Health care facilities exist to prevent disease and help people
live a better life, prevent pain and death, etc. So to allow employees to not be vaccinated, yet
come into close contact with the sickly and newborn, would be completely outrageous.

Stupid ? outrageous ? that's it ? More like CRIMINAL and RECKLESS, it could end up costing the lives of patients, but health care facilities are scared to enforce mandates, it is very difficult to find health workers in such shitty conditions, when a lot of them are quitting out of exhaustion - enforcing mandates would be a disaster, some hospitals tried this here and nurses doctors quit, now there is a healthcare CRISIS - some hospitals were forced to shut down due to lack of staff. That's the outrageous and stupid part - If not for the variants, then it could slide, with proper hygiene mandates, BUT now with variants it is very easily transmissible, even if you follow guidelines, that's how easy it is to get it, so variants have changed the whole picture. Perhaps people should get more incentive, say, if you don't get vaccinated, you go to jail. Vaccine mandates should be in effect only in extreme measures, this virus and variants is an extreme measure.......if they apply vaccine mandates it should apply equally, for all, not just one industry.

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Vaccinations for the most part, no matter what it is for, is not a cure all, is not a prevent all, it is
an aid in preventing and an aid into life protection.

Vaccine efficacy is weaker now against INFECTIONS - BUT they all remain strong against severe forms, hospitalisation and death, by more than 90%. But it doesn't seem to convince people enough, they rather end up intubated first, THEN they want the bloody vaccine. Sad. Sad that they would put their loved ones through this, their loved ones, children, etc. and parents forcing their children NOT to get the vaccine, despite the children wanting them, such shit for brain parents, some examples ......... these parents should be arrested for CRIME, they are gambling with their children's lives, and what happens if their children die of COVID ? Are parents liable, well legally, no, parents get away with it, even though they are a bunch of criminals.

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It's tim for me to get my yearly flu shot. Does that mean I will not get the flu? Does that mean
I will not spread the flu to someone else?

It's funny you mention the Flu shot, efficacy is 40%-60%, yet people get the Flu shots. COVID19 shots efficacy above 90% and people don't want it. I wonder if there will even be a Flu season this year, last year there barely were any outbreaks, here, not a single one, of course if everyone is wearing masks. I know someone who got Flu shot one year and actually got struck with Flu almost died, and it was the first time in his life he got struck with Flu :D and no it's not the vaccine that gave him the Flu, it's people who think that with vaccine they are shielded, so they let their guards down. Same with COVID19 vaccine.

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Does that mean I won't die from the flu? Taking the flu

Very unlikely, you may get sick, same with COVID19 vaccine, you can still get infected, but your odds of ending up in an ICU and dying are extremely reduced, by over 90%, and that is all variants - For infections (getting infected in the first place), the efficacy is still higher than Flu vaccine. There is no ******ned excuse for people not to get their COVID19 vaccine :D

at least you understand how vaccine works and their importance :D

FUNNY before the vaccine people were crying and begging for vaccines - now we have bloody vaccines, but not enough people give a shit.

In Canada today, in the news, MILLIONS of vaccine doses will be thrown in the garbage, they are spoiled, what a damn waste ! these viles could have gone to people who really need and WANT IT. Our PUPPET of Prime Minister has too much good faith in Canadians ability to take the good decisions, big mistake :D

I am glad I took both doses of my vaccine, not only do I speak 13 more languages thanks to the integrated IC chip
but now I can sing all of Elvis songs by heart :mrgreen:

Also I just remembered, you asked a question in your topic, what kind of oath did she swear ? Nobody answered so far, here is the answer. Apple cinnamon :lol:
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#14 by valerie » Mon Oct 11, 2021 05:45

Another thing I was going to mention is 'insurance'.

People that work in health care facilities, usually have insurance provided
thru that facility. When employees get sick, need medical attention, the
insurance pays whatever stated amount.

Now look at all the hospitals and all the employees and think about them
all getting covid. Think about insurance premiums.....as if they are not
high enough.

Then there is lawsuits. How many employees would bring a case against
the health care facility if they were to get covid?

That's what I meant by more than meets the eye.
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#15 by Darkstar2 » Mon Oct 11, 2021 14:20

Insurance should NOT cover any employee who refuses a vaccine, insurance companies would have to be crazy to offer coverage to health care workers, in an environment that is high risk, it is no longer a question of discrimination here, but extra ordinary circumstances - that's fine, those stingy workers can go work in FEMA camps, they won't require vaccination, it's a new home for the anti-vaxxer and trouble makers. it DISGUSTS me that some of these people publicly said they are willing to DIE and put other lives at risk than get the vaccine - makes me wonder why the F did they sign up for that job in the first place, bunch of hypocrites ! SO much for their oath, I think they confuse oath with oatmeal, maybe they swore over a bowl of hot oatmeal :D
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#16 by MotlatiLina » Mon Oct 18, 2021 10:46

Once you signed an oath means some of your views or beliefs are taken off. You cannot put your beliefs or your views and put the patients at risk. Why did you sign the oath at the first place.
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#17 by tasman1 » Mon Oct 18, 2021 15:51

One Country , two law = fascist

Example Australia ........,, since start we have 2 law

Until not long ago ........ white policy in Australia , one law for white people one law for black people
Now .........one law for vaccinated , one law for non vaccinated

In short ......................first we did hate black people now we hate non vaccinated people
I n short .... here in Australia can not live if we do not hate

Rest of the world now in LOVE with Australia ..... all have now 2 law , one for vaccinated one for non vaccinated

All now in love with Fascist ideology , all now in hate

Let us all vote in next election for Benito Mussolini ,,,,, first we must dig him from grave

Made few poll in Australia .........75% vaccinated people say .... non vaccinated , kill them all

Kill is now most used word in Australia

What about your country ????? Will you like to kill non vaccinated ?
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#18 by Darkstar2 » Thu Oct 21, 2021 09:54

MotlatiLina wrote: Once you signed an oath means some of your views or beliefs are taken off. You cannot put your beliefs or your views and put the patients at risk. Why did you sign the oath at the first place.

Exactly, at least during your work hours, after hours and at home you can do what you want think what you want, but if you accept to work in a hospital you must live under those principles at ALL times, you set aside your shitty beliefs and quackery, and care for the patient instead, based on the science you studied at school otherwise you find another industry, like work in a bar or prison :D I have a hard time understanding how a health care PROFESSIONAL would frown upon vaccination and even go as far as discouraging their peers and patients !!! They should be the ones setting the example. In Canada there was news about some dentists that were sending personal letters to all their patients with bullshit and conspiracy theories about pandemic and urging the patients not to get vaccinated - I have no words, I cannot believe this is happening, from SO-CALLED educated people who have spent hundreds of thousands of $ studying medicine and science, to be taking such actions, it defies all logic.

Governments have their hands tied - they cannot just FIRE all the nurses and doctors, hospitals are facing a huge shortage of staff, a lot are quitting over the forced vaccination - at this point in time it would be a catastrophe to impose a mandate, the patients will suffer, once this pandemic is under control though, if at all, then they should be disciplined and fined big time, it should be added in their record, so that if the nurses or doctors try to find a job anywhere else, they would have a hard time - problem is, when hospital administrators support anti-vaxxers and quacks - that's very disturbing.

Will people have to travel to a foreign country to get the treatment they are waiting for or to get proper treatment ?

Pathetic.
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#19 by Darkstar2 » Thu Oct 21, 2021 10:19

tasman1 wrote: One Country , two law = fascist

Example Australia ........,, since start we have 2 law

Until not long ago ........ white policy in Australia , one law for white people one law for black people
Now .........one law for vaccinated , one law for non vaccinated

Are you serious ? First time I see this, wow Australia is more messed up than I initially thought - when in 2021, skin colour is still an issue, that is so f*cked up !

But I think you are mixing applies and oranges here, skin colour is not a virus - having different laws for different colours is discriminatory, period. Having white or black skin does not put other lives in danger. ON THE OTHER HAND, COVID19 is a dangerous virus that spreads and kills innocent people or makes them very sick, it's logical to have policies for non vaccinated and vaccinated, why ? Because people were given a chance to follow the f***ing rules from day 1 and they did not listen, so now they have no choice - a non vaccinated person is a health hazard and risk to others - imagine a non essential public place that allows BOTH crowds, would that be fair to the ones vaccinated, no, it would create more risks and more cases - so what's better then, to have one law and shut down all business until pandemic ends and lock down ???? It's fair enough, you are fully vaccinated you are allowed looser restrictions and access to non essential activities, whilst the hard headed persons who decided to not get vaccinated, FINE, they made their choice, their body, their choice, but that does NOT mean they should put other lives at risk, so they should be restricted, because they represent a health hazard. Skin colour is NOT a health hazard, can you see the difference ?

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In short ......................first we did hate black people now we hate non vaccinated people
I n short .... here in Australia can not live if we do not hate

That's a lot of rubbish - are there valid reasons to hate someone for their COLOUR, absolutely not, you judge someone for the things they do and their personality, not colour, so there is no VALID excuse, on the other hand, there are valid reasons to hate QUACKS and anti-vaxxers, they are the ones who are holding the population hostage, they are the reason why variants are spreading - this pandemic has reached a serious point, with those variants and all, non vaccinated refusing to protect themselves AND others including their own loved ones, that is unacceptable, so fine,
what can we do about non vaccinated, we can't kill them all, we can't put them all in jail, there is no room, what can we do is isolate them and keep them away from the rest of the population that did the right thing, non vaccinated cry babies, they should be thankful they still have the liberty to walk around, do groceries, stay home and still take part in essential activities, but non essential activities should be off limits, THAT, or just shut down the economy and everyone stays the f*ck home!

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Made few poll in Australia .........75% vaccinated people say .... non vaccinated , kill them all

ahahahahaha it's Australia, not surprised about this survey, again you are mixing apples and oranges, obviously
they know that this won't ever happen, but the danger is that this can escalate where the vaccinated people will go after the non vaccinated. I am FOR policies for both vaccinated and non-vaccinated, I am against violence or the notion of "killing them all", that's stupid to even mention, BUT anger sometimes talks - I'm pretty sure not everyone means it literally, it's just anger and frustration that makes you say stuff like "oh kill them all", so what's the next solution ? Isolate them, keep innocent people safe, is that fascism ? NO, it would be CRIMINAL otherwise to allow non vaccinated people CONTINUE to cause the virus and variants to spread and cost most lives, non vaccinated people still have A LOT of freedom left, they are a bunch of f cry babies, they haven't TRULY seen MISERY, POVERTY, fascism and unrest like other countries, they would quickly shut up then, they should be thankful, they can eat, drink, still get out of their home, and nobody is pointing a gun to their head, they should be thankful there is no FORCED vaccination mandate, they should be thankful they can still vote, without having someone's gun to their head. Vaccinated people want a reward for being vaccinated, to resume their activities, why must it be ruined by non vaccinated people spreading the virus around like crazy ? That's not fascism, that's something that's the result of a population who has been given 1 bloody year to follow guidelines and adhere to sanitary measures, what do you do when people don't listen, you take drastic measures that are warranted and long overdue. and if policies don't work you take it up a notch, and no you don't kill'em, violence will just make shit worse anyway, you don't completely stripe them of their freedom, you just keep them away from some non essentials, where they could put other people at high risk.
If these selfish ungrateful F still cry about things, they should go live in Haiti for a year or two, or they should go to any other country where there is civil unrest, violence, poverty and all, THEN they will BEG to return and they will realise how much freedom they still had. Again I am not blaming anybody who cannot get vaccinated for VALID medical reasons - it's not their fault.

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Kill is now most used word in Australia

And you think that is new ? It's Australia, where have you been all these years ? :mrgreen: Nothing has changed, the 2 most popular words in Australia are Kill and C*nt :D

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What about your country ????? Will you like to kill non vaccinated ?

NO I would not like that, because I believe in freedom and making your own choices, with your body, BUT I ALSO strongly believe that there should be consequences for our decisions ESPECIALLY if it puts other lives at risk.
There are already vaccination passports and policies in place in some Canadian provinces, restaurants, bars, Gyms, cinema, theatre, etc, are all off limits to people who are not FULLY vaccinated, is that an issue ? NOPE, people can still order in, drive-through, etc. People can watch films at home, etc, so you see they still have freedom, they made a choice, no problem, but that doesn't mean they can decide to put lives in danger, nobody should.
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