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#21 by tasman1 » Mon Aug 17, 2020 17:20

darkstar ..................... rules are made to be broken ,,,, you are all in obey , obey , obey , I am all in disobey , disobey , disobey and NEVER trust ANY politicians in the world EVER
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#22 by Darkstar2 » Mon Aug 17, 2020 17:29

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He should have hired a spin-doctor and someone to write his speeches when the subject was the pandemic, Even though i know it's not his style at all.

Just wishing the virus away is not quite enough, He also had a responsibility to his voters (especially those in the southern states) to be a role model on how to follow the guide-lines during a pandemic (Too many deniers who do not care).

Role model my arse, even his most fanatic supporters are betraying him now and voting Democrat, even some hard Republicans have publicly stated they will support Biden. That's really bad :mrgreen:

People are realising that he is not meant to lead during bad times, during a crisis, during an apocalypse, and probably not during a war. The day that hard line Republicans join the darkside and vote for the far left socialists, means that times are really bad.

What a pity, because tech companies and investors in general are pro Trump, even with his unorthodox way of doing things, he's managed to keep the stock market over inflated by 30-40%, which means a healthy 401k for people who have money saved, and even now, stocks have stock up to near highs again. With Trump it's very likely that the DOW will see 5%-10% growth for the next 4-5 years - With Biden, it will be a 30% drop during the first term, and a long L shaped recovery.

He's insulting his own staff, contradicting his own experts, top doctors, etc, what kind of a President would do that 3 months before election, it makes no sense, he is shooting himself in the foot, unless he is doing this on purpose because he doesn't want to win but wants to leave America in shambles first.

Trump decided to re-open economy too soon, it paid off, markets rebounded to near highs, totally unexpected, but at the cost of 50,000-60,000 new cases a day and people dying. If it were Joe Biden he would keep America locked for God knows how long, the economy would stagnate further down the sink hole, higher contraction, depression like scenario, and markets would have likely collapsed to levels they were during 2008-2009 or worse. It's obvious Trump is not a conventional leader, he's NUTS !!! But thanks to him, a lot of people who have built a nest egg will have a decent retirement, he's keeping the economy, jobs, and money markets healthy and over inflated :D One day this bubble will explode, and that'll be in 6-10 years from now. The next 5 years will likely yield good returns, coronavirus or not, and in 2021 recovery will be much better than anticipated, especially with more positive news about vaccines, of course assuming Trump wins. Neither Russia, nor China will help him - he's on his own and I would hate to see the EMBARRASSMENT when he loses by a landslide. Oh well it is what it is.

Also he should take it easy on the building of tensions with China, now is not a good time for his arm wrestling with Xi Jinping, both should just settle down and wait for the shoving match after the pandemic is dealt with, the whole world can then send the bill to China, but for now let's focus on finding a vaccine and getting rid of this virus. Unfortunately, North America needs China, and China needs us, any rising tensions with China will impact the economy in a negative way and stall recovery.
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#23 by Arvind9 » Mon Aug 17, 2020 18:21

Darkstar2 wrote:
Arvind9 wrote: Indian's say India is an natural ally of the US,slightly off the mark India is Donald Trump's ally,we dont find ourselves fitting with China because if we except them as friends we will never replace them,so we rather imagine of ourselves that we can never replace the US as well as China its a very confusing situation,it suits Donald Trump because he can keep us under check

First, it's hard to imagine right now, ANY country being friends with China, the responsible for this genocide.
As far as Trump, well the show is over soon, his days are numbered. He destroyed and ruined everything he worked for and fought for in the last 4 years because of his way of leading the pandemic. He had every chance to win a re-election, had he acted like a true leader during a crisis, and keep the political tirades until AFTER re-election :D Unfortunately for Americans, and maybe the rest of the world, Trump will get defeated by a landslide - and who knows if the whole world will go into a massive depression due to the civil unrest and constitution collapse in America, it might change democracy forever. As far as India and China well right now the whole should learn to gradually part with China, they must accept responsibility and pay for their negligence. Like Russia, I do not think China would share any vaccine with the world, besides I'll pass on any vaccine, I don't want to mutate into a bat or pengola :mrgreen:

Its just a question of time India would not fear Joe Biden as much as Kamala Harris she is made the vice presidential candidate more to cut down Donald Trump's American Indian votes which he thought were safe votes for him,but the real problem will be when Kamala Harris takes oath her thinking is very much against the Indian governments policies,it would be very tough for the Indian government to change its foreign policy and find itself stuck between the US and China,only if a neutral stance had been maintained the situation would not have been as awkward as its going to be
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#24 by Nikorj » Tue Aug 18, 2020 01:14

Darkstar2 wrote:
Nikorj wrote: The Chinese people are raised well by a strict government, Here in Denmark nearly all Asians are wearing masks while nearly none white people are wearing any.

China have what i call the "modern" version of communism with a lot of economic growth which is a stark contrast to the olden version which only caused stagnation and poverty.

Socialism can be good and bad, Just as capitalism ;)

Right, exactly, I don't know why people here in North America are so anti-mask, people are literally killing one another in stores and fighting over bloody masks. Oh and BTW, there is a massive party in Wuhan today, the feast starts in a few, guess what's the main course ? :lol:

I would trade my constitutional rights and freedom for a few weeks to 1 month if it means it would end the pandemic.
Here in this side of the pond, people want their cake and eat it, selfish, self centered, conspiracy theory spreading, anti-maskers, anti-this anti-that. This pandemic would have ended in 1 month had governments adopted the hard measures in the first month. What happened when some Canadian provinces made MANDATORY wearing of masks in a public place......cases dropped, week after week.

They should print big posters around here with "Wear your ******* masks !" They should have drones roaming the air detecting people who do not wear masks, sending them vocal warnings, if they do not comply, then they are shot with tranquiliser darts in the arse, and another drones comes by and places the mask. Welcome to the new world, where there are consequences for not obeying the one world order rule. Hmm wait a minute, this would make a good series :D

:mrgreen:

Easy now Darkstar!!!, Remember your blood pressure :mrgreen:


To boil everything down to a few sentences (Yup i read it all), Trump is a blind arsehole who's wearing his mask around the eyes and not the mouth, And people not obeying the rules/guidelines for this pandemic should be electronic tagged on their wrist :D

Some Danish politicians have actually suggested that!!!
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#25 by Darkstar2 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 07:26

Nikorj wrote:

Easy now Darkstar!!!, Remember your blood pressure :mrgreen:

No BP problems here, :mrgreen: I'm just fed up of this pandemic - Who would have thought that this historic zombie apocalypse of a pandemic would bring people together - imagine if people all worked together, this pandemic would have been over by April, but no, it's going to be further delayed by probably 500 more years, until finally the first super computer enabled robot releases an effective vaccine, until then the only barrier keeping this pandemic from ending is 1) Freedom 2) Constitutional rights. :)

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people not obeying the rules/guidelines for this pandemic should be electronic tagged on their wrist :D

Some Danish politicians have actually suggested that!!!

Your President is too soft - that's getting away easy. It should be more like, those who do not obey the pandemic rules, should get zapped.........They should get a lobotomy - maybe shocking a few of those cells might snap people out of their delusional bubble and bring them down to earth and realise we are in the smack middle of a massive war worse than any a-bomb - a virus that is trying to take over the planet, and right now you have parents naming their new babies Coronavirus........Something is wrong, people have gone mad, so ZAP'EM :lol:

BUT people who are anti-mask and anti-covid19 will protest and say "We have rights, we have a constitution, it is our right to refuse wearing a mask, you cannot impose your opinions........" WELL I'm afraid that COVID19 should be treated the same way as a terrorist attack, therefore any measure to protect national security, and public health and safety should momentarily take reign over constitution and freedom, until the situation is no longer deemed a threat.
But no President would dare even think about that, God forbid, they would not be a popular President, so in the end it all comes down to politics over public health, and we the SUCKERS, the GULLIBLE around the world vote for these politicians to work for our interests, but THEY, the politicians work for theirs and theirs only......

So the result of freedom and constitution ? People are fighting and assaulting one another in stores over masks. People politely asking another person to wear a mask as rules state, and being sucker punched to the ground, stabbed, shot, etc., Well it's time to build a new wall, put people who dismiss the virus and don't want to follow any rules, on one side, and people who follow rules and take precautions on one side.
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#26 by suraraj » Tue Aug 18, 2020 08:03

In India, wearing of masks is compulsory and fine is collected for not wearing masks. But even now the virus is not under control. Everyday the infection is now spreading but only positive in India is the death rate is very low compared to other countries. Masks have a role to play but not the only solution.
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#27 by Nikorj » Tue Aug 18, 2020 08:48

According to Darkstar i'm living in softie country, Finally our government has decided that masks are mandatory, But only when using public transport.

This is as tough as it gets here ;)
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#28 by inshaf1997 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 11:34

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#29 by tasman1 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 17:37

This topic is .................. N.Z. No election = Fascist State and Fascist Govt

Question is........ In last 70 years U.S.A, invade all Fascist and dictatorship states , will they invade N.Z.

B.T.W. ...... If U.S.A. cancel election what chance is that U.S.A. will invade U.S.A ?
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#30 by Arvind9 » Tue Aug 18, 2020 17:46

Wrong US has still not invaded Iran,N.Korea,they invade countries which cannot wage a war against them or hurt their intrests,trade war virus but have still not invaded China because China is not harmless
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#31 by Darkstar2 » Wed Aug 19, 2020 17:34

suraraj wrote: In India, wearing of masks is compulsory and fine is collected for not wearing masks. But even now the virus is not under control. Everyday the infection is now spreading but only positive in India is the death rate is very low compared to other countries. Masks have a role to play but not the only solution.

Masks would help stop the spreading of the virus, however, India is densely populated, so it is more difficult to enforce distance. It's one thing to wear a mask, you must wear it properly, and there are multiple rules to follow, aside from wearing masks, if people keep a minimum distance, the virus cannot spread. There are businesses here that enforced masks and distance from day 1 of reopening, they have had 0 cases since re-opening months ago. Technically, if you are too close to a person that is infected, you can still get infected even with a mask on. The mask is not air tight obviously or you would not breath. It just acts as a barrier to reduce the distance the droplets travel, but you need to be at minimum distance away. The only way to stop the spread 100% is for everyone to wear HAZMAT suits :mrgreen: That would be kind of inconvenient, especially in very hot climate :P
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#32 by Darkstar2 » Wed Aug 19, 2020 17:37

Nikorj wrote: According to Darkstar i'm living in softie country, Finally our government has decided that masks are mandatory, But only when using public transport.

This is as tough as it gets here ;)

That's absurd. Masks should be mandatory in ALL indoor public places. Just applying it when using public transport is not enough, it needs to be applied in stores, restaurants, everywhere there is people. They need to have drones flying all around and detect people not wearing them, and tasing them, along with a verbal warning to wear one :mrgreen: This pandemic calls for drastic actions, no scam vaccine will end it.
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#33 by Darkstar2 » Wed Aug 19, 2020 17:39

tasman1 wrote: This topic is .................. N.Z. No election = Fascist State and Fascist Govt

Question is........ In last 70 years U.S.A, invade all Fascist and dictatorship states , will they invade N.Z.

B.T.W. ...... If U.S.A. cancel election what chance is that U.S.A. will invade U.S.A ?

Is there oil in NZ ? :P

And no, America will not cancel election :lol: Only congress can make such a move, and never in history has elections been canceled in America, under any circumstance - so much to Trump's disappointment, not even him can make this happen. Elections will happen on schedule, and Biden will win to a landslide and destroy business, shatter investments, and plunge North America into a depression.
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