tasman1 wrote: Darkstar ,,,, war is coming , you like it or not................ end is not far
I know, and we'll all be long dead before that so-called 'end times' though I think we reincarnate, so we will all experience everything until end of times. Wars ? In the middle of a pandemic I don't think so, it's mostly war of words and provocation - no world leader, not even corrupt China wants a World War, and Trump certainly doesn't either, because he probably knows deep inside that America has more foes and allies, there is no way a world war can have a good outcome for North America, not with China, Russia, North Korea and Iran aligning with one another. A world war would basically wipe billions of people from the planet and send economy and money to near 0 values, you would need a century to recover everything from scratch again. A world war 3 would nothing like WW1 / 2, it will be short lived and cause massive casualties, direct and indirect.
So as some countries are focusing on finding a vaccine, including China, do you think now is a good time for a war, I don't think so......at least not a nuclear war, I think tensions will flare up in the Middle East again, but just wait, once a vaccine is out or treatment likely in 2021, the whole world will focus on that instead, that will be enough diversion to put any wars on hold...... What happens after this pandemic is a big unknown. It's becoming more and more likely that Trump will lose to a landslide, given how he handled the pandemic and caught in many lies, and give the stalling economy and markets, I guess at this point he has proven that he should not be in power. BUT on the other hand, Joe Biden is one of those war mongering presidents, unlike Trump, Biden is a strong supporter of nose meddling in other country affairs and wars, the likes of GWB
SO Americans have a tough choice, both with bad outcomes.
1) Vote Trump and avoid wars BUT economy will sink in 2021 as COVID19 will be out of control and kill millions of Americans, sending America into a Great Depression.......
2) Vote Biden, see raising tension between other countries, nose meddling into international affairs, military actions, a stock market that plunges at minimum 25% from its pre-election high.
With Trump in power, stocks will remain over valued for a while, and he will likely push for a vaccine and treatment faster than any other candidate, problem is, he keeps lying about the severity, numbers, and pretty much everything.
So either way, it's a bad scenario, in one scenario without Trump, the covid19 might eventually become stable and start declining, BUT it will be very difficult to contain and despite the cases going down they will remain very high for a long time, it's likely under Biden there will be more saved American lives, BUT 50% more bankruptcies, jobless and tanked economy, I would bet money that Biden will only last 1 term. To be honest who would want to run for elections during these times, I think America has reached the point of no return, things are so out of control now, that it will be near impossible to get back on track before a cure or vaccine, so with either candidates, COVID19 will keep spreading in 2021, only with one candidate more business will shut down and more people will lose their savings.
Also Bill Gates should shut his pie hole, nobody is interested in what he thinks of all this - he can keep on pumping millions, billions of $ it won't matter.
Chances of conflict rising' as Australian ships 'confronted' by Chinese forces
2 bullies confronting one another, nice, why not work with one another to fight this bloody COVID19, the more countries focus on tension and wars, the worst things will get, the last thing we need is stalling and further delaying this pandemic.
Plus .......... we will all stay in jail , think forever
If people had been patient 1 or 2 more months in jail, we would not be having this conversation, but no, people wanted to re-open and go to bars, go shag on beaches, etc, well now people are complaining because of new shut down, so be it, it is what it is, we will be in this shit situation until a vaccine comes out, so you are right, though except the forever part, I mean eventually there will be a vaccine, maybe in 5 years, 10 years or 100 years, and IF we are LUCKY, the vaccine will be 50% effective yeah - CRAP essentially. That's the minimum the FDA requires, they quite lowered the bar I guess, so even with a 50% effective vaccine, I don't think it's going to matter, the virus will keep spreading faster than people get vaccinated, and according to his majesty Bill Gate$ of Hell, people will need at least 2 doses of the vaccine......There is no way people will want to get 2 damn shots a year for COVID19, no way. Unless they include COVID19 vaccine with the Flu vaccine, bu that's not going to happen initially.
So people have 2 choices.
1) Stay at home and ride out the storm and get to live...........(locked in your home is still better than in some prison or hospital don't you think ?)
2) Ignore pandemic and go out, and don't make it to xmas........
Right now it seems there are more people who want to die, and most of the people defying rules are the Generation F as I call them, (Generation Fornicators, pot smoking, rule defying future generation of a mess
) They do not give a crap anyway they think because they are in their teens or 30's that they won't die because they won't get complications from virus, they still think it kills only old people. Well they are in for a surprise as there are more and more kids, teens and young adults in hospitals dying.......... and I cannot believe some states are pushing to re-open schools and sending their kids back there FFS, some people are messed up ! Try asking your kids to wear masks all day, not play with their friends.....kids are vectors of spreading infection, how the hell is this going to work out ?
..............I call all people in the world regardles of race or religion .............start revolution now or perish
So you are the devil then, I knew it
I thought you were going to say something like "regardless of religion and race, we should unite together and fight this thing and save our planet" oh well, so you think starting revolutions will end this pandemic ? It will only make the virus happy because it will keep spreading, it will grow wings and fangs too .......
There's still time for salvation
Prime Minister Scott Morrison has revealed there will likely be no overseas travel out of Australia until a coronavirus vaccine is available.
Finally one smart and reasonable thing coming out of a politician's pie hole. I wish other country world leaders would think the same way. This is how this virus spread in the first place, TRAVELERS !
“Right now, travel beyond our borders is not foreseeable,” he told Tracy Grimshaw on A Current Affair on Thursday night, saying without a vaccine international travel is “very challenging”.
Yeah......so much obsession over this vaccine as if it were a God send to end the pandemic. All the vaccine will do is protect only a small % of the population, but there will likely be resistance from most of the world population to get it, and still, at the 50% effective level required by FDA, and multiple shots required, the spread of infection will outpace immunisation, it will likely take YEARS from the moment a vaccine is released to immunise the whole world. I mean so what if a vaccine comes out, it will not be instant immunisation for the whole world, that's not how it works. Remember that even with the Flu vaccine out, there are still hundreds of thousands dying each year, so with COVID19 being far more infectious, those numbers will be even higher, so in other words, it will take YEARS for things to level out, COVID19 will be a residual virus like the Flu, it will take years to reach those levels, even with a vaccine,
so unless there is mandatory world vaccination (it's NOT going to happen), then it will take YEARS for the travel industry to recover.
I don't see how it would be safe to travel on a plane anymore, even if everyone wears a mask, people are packed like sardines, the air is recycled, and masks do not block 100% of covid19 particles, so in such tight space, for hours of flight, the virus could remain in suspension in the air for the entire duration of flight and infect people EVEN with masks, through the eyes. So unless airline passengers are wearing hasmat suits I don't see how this is going to work out, and airlines will not survive if they have to fly at 20% capacity and remove seats. Cost of travel would have to be so much higher to keep up, and traveling will be a luxury and for the rich
Besides, where are you going to travel to anyway, most of the tropical destinations are seeing MASSIVE surges in COVID19.