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#1 by sonyjmn » Fri May 01, 2020 07:19

This is for Indian members

Lockdown Extended by 2 Weeks

India split into Red, Green and Orange Zones

Lockdown will be till May 17

Red Zones complete lockdown

Green Zones can open some shops

Please do check your state and city are you located in RED, Orange or Green Zone

Stay safe be at home if you are in Red Zone

Health is most important
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#2 by suraraj » Fri May 01, 2020 08:04

People will die due to hunger.
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#3 by Arvind9 » Fri May 01, 2020 10:09

Indias GDP will contract to - 0.7% by the end of 2020 according to economist which never happened in Indian history,if poor has to be helped the government will have to spend 65 thousand million rupees bringing down the GDP to -1.2%, we all would have to pay the price to save lives many of us will never see our present standard of living,so the question is which option is better save the poor or see a large part of society going down.
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#4 by josealvesjr » Fri May 01, 2020 10:32

Arvind9 wrote: Indias GDP will contract to - 0.7% by the end of 2020 according to economist which never happened in Indian history,if poor has to be helped the government will have to spend 65 thousand million rupees bringing down the GDP to -1.2%, we all would have to pay the price to save lives many of us will never see our present standard of living,so the question is which option is better save the poor or see a large part of society going down.

In my opinion the honorable and dignified option should be the 1st option.When money prevails over life, oh brother.
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#5 by Arvind9 » Fri May 01, 2020 10:39

So in the process we will save the rich because they will give nothing,fact of the matter is the whole society can be saved if the rich pay,we are so used to the thinking that whatever happens the rich are not to pay anything because money is only for them we are fools,Jane Goodall the famous primatologist says people dying of hunger is not important the rich should not loose money that is the main objective of every government
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#6 by suraraj » Fri May 01, 2020 10:43

Dying out of hunger is more painful than dying due to corona or other diseases. As per the government report 900 people die due to respiratory diseases every day and when compared to these, Corona has still low death rate. Indian government must reduce the lip talk and do something to the poor people. When you want people to stay inside their houses for more than 40 days continuously without any income, is it not the government responsibility to see that they have money to but the essential. India has more than 50 million tons of food grains but the willingness of the government to give to the poor people is not there.
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#7 by Arvind9 » Fri May 01, 2020 10:50

Because their prime duty is to protect the industry and rich which is the backbone of the economy,you are absolutely correct the government is not committed to saving lifes and the poor from dying of hunger,The US is a rich country but more than 65,000 are dead upto date due to Coronavirus but Donald Trump keeps saying he has done a great job,there is no value for life.
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#8 by josealvesjr » Fri May 01, 2020 10:52

Arvind9 wrote: So in the process we will save the rich because they will give nothing,fact of the matter is the whole society can be saved if the rich pay,we are so used to the thinking that whatever happens the rich are not to pay anything because money is only for them we are fools

The rich will always save themselves.They have the power and political influence.We still live in a world where it is ok to be filthy rich and get away with everything.The poor and the middle classes around the world will have to top the bill.
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#9 by Arvind9 » Fri May 01, 2020 10:56

Exactly a large part of society will have to go down to save the needy
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#10 by josealvesjr » Fri May 01, 2020 11:02

Arvind9 wrote: Exactly a large part of society will have to go down to save the needy

There is the prediction that 300 million people around the world lose their job and that the poor will even become poorer. That might provoke some civil unrest.
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#11 by Arvind9 » Fri May 01, 2020 11:11

Even in a lockdown shops selling arms are allowed to stay open in the US, more people are bying guns,in a US state people are out with guns demanding lifting of the lockdown
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#12 by valerie » Fri May 01, 2020 11:33

A few things....

People in the US, always buy guns. Always. It's big sales and actually always has been.
The only time gun sales literally jump through the roofs is when people think the government
might restrict the sales. So, when the media states people in the US are buying guns, it is
laughable because people always buy guns.

Every adult in America received a stimulus check or bank deposit in the amount of $1,200.00.
Those with children, also received in addition, $500.00 per child. If you were a married couple
with three children, your total stimulus was $3,900.00. There is some exception to this such
as a person owing child support. If a person owes $1,200 in child support or more, that person
would not get the stimulus check.

Even if you are retired, such as myself, I received the $1,200.00 stimulus direct deposit.

In addition, if you are unemployed and filed for unemployment, you will receive $600 per
week, in unemployment. I have some friends that received $3,900.00 in stimulus and
the woman works at Walmart and her husband is unemployed receiving $600.00 per week.

The reality is, for many people, they are receiving more than if they were working.

Also, those on SNAP benefits have received more. At least one I know of received almost
twice the allotment as usual. SNAP (food stamps).

Many people in the US live beyond their means. Not everyone of course but many do.
Those that live beyond their means, probably have the toughest go of it during hard times
like these. Hopefully it is a wake up call for them.

I'd hate to have everything some people have and have the worry those people have.
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#13 by tasman1 » Fri May 01, 2020 13:59

Arvind9 wrote: Exactly a large part of society will have to go down to save the needy




I will translate you post to English , here it is

Exactly a large part of society will have to go down to save few fuc..r


Valerie, yes American are buying guns but now they buying 1000% more ......revolution is coming

josealvesjr , some civil unrest ????????????? no , civil war , yes
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#14 by tasman1 » Fri May 01, 2020 14:13

Australian game started with buying toilet paper , now it is explosion of gun buying , govt worry
P.S. do you have any bazuka for sale ?
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#15 by Nikorj » Fri May 01, 2020 14:52

valerie wrote: A few things....

People in the US, always buy guns. Always. It's big sales and actually always has been.
The only time gun sales literally jump through the roofs is when people think the government
might restrict the sales. So, when the media states people in the US are buying guns, it is
laughable because people always buy guns.

Every adult in America received a stimulus check or bank deposit in the amount of $1,200.00.
Those with children, also received in addition, $500.00 per child. If you were a married couple
with three children, your total stimulus was $3,900.00. There is some exception to this such
as a person owing child support. If a person owes $1,200 in child support or more, that person
would not get the stimulus check.

Even if you are retired, such as myself, I received the $1,200.00 stimulus direct deposit.

In addition, if you are unemployed and filed for unemployment, you will receive $600 per
week, in unemployment. I have some friends that received $3,900.00 in stimulus and
the woman works at Walmart and her husband is unemployed receiving $600.00 per week.

The reality is, for many people, they are receiving more than if they were working.

Also, those on SNAP benefits have received more. At least one I know of received almost
twice the allotment as usual. SNAP (food stamps).

Many people in the US live beyond their means. Not everyone of course but many do.
Those that live beyond their means, probably have the toughest go of it during hard times
like these. Hopefully it is a wake up call for them.

I'd hate to have everything some people have and have the worry those people have.

Is there any estimate for how long they'll receive this benefit??, From my point of view employees at a supermarket is also front-line workers. An idea would be that they should at least also receive free healthcare during this crisis if they need it, According to some of my family members in the US many of them are only part-time workers and therefore don't have insurance from their workplace.
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#16 by Nikorj » Fri May 01, 2020 14:56

tasman1 wrote: Australian game started with buying toilet paper , now it is explosion of gun buying , govt worry
P.S. do you have any bazuka for sale ?

Why are they buying guns???

Australia is nicely isolated from the rest of the world, And they are one of the countries that are faring best during this pandemic.
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#17 by valerie » Fri May 01, 2020 17:43

That was the first approved stimulus check.

The senate has been out but were to be back May 1st. They are discussing a second stimulus
package. The monies discussed now is $2,000 for six months or 12 months. We won't know
until they come out with it. That is, per month.

In regards to health insurance, any cover-19 health related issue is covered by the government.
So in reality, those that don't have insurance are at least some what better off in that regard
because they won't have to be concerned with health care costs if they need to be tested for
covid-19 or get sick from it.

Keep in mind, there are various forms of health care in America. Even many jobs that are
part time, will have health care options that the worker can purchase. There is also Medicare
for those over 65 years of age. Also, State Medicaid is based on income for adults/children/families.
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#18 by sreejathan » Fri May 01, 2020 18:15

Nikorj wrote:
tasman1 wrote: Australian game started with buying toilet paper , now it is explosion of gun buying , govt worry
P.S. do you have any bazuka for sale ?

Why are they buying guns???

Australia is nicely isolated from the rest of the world, And they are one of the countries that are faring best during this pandemic.

Yes Australia is best in dealing with the pandemic. There are many factors including climate, lifestyle, politics.... for that success.
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#19 by Nikorj » Sat May 02, 2020 00:57

valerie wrote: That was the first approved stimulus check.

The senate has been out but were to be back May 1st. They are discussing a second stimulus
package. The monies discussed now is $2,000 for six months or 12 months. We won't know
until they come out with it. That is, per month.

In regards to health insurance, any cover-19 health related issue is covered by the government.
So in reality, those that don't have insurance are at least some what better off in that regard
because they won't have to be concerned with health care costs if they need to be tested for
covid-19 or get sick from it.

Keep in mind, there are various forms of health care in America. Even many jobs that are
part time, will have health care options that the worker can purchase. There is also Medicare
for those over 65 years of age. Also, State Medicaid is based on income for adults/children/families.

I'm aware that there are several options when it comes to healthcare in the US (Including state aid), And for foreigners it's a bit more complex than we are used to. The question was more related to what are being done during covid 19

While it's true that many Americans buys a lot of stuff and having issues with controlling their spending, There is also a nice percentage that can only afford their rent and basic needs due to low paid jobs.

600$ is quite generous and is about the same amount one on early pension would receive in Denmark if it was based on a week and not every month
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#20 by valerie » Sat May 02, 2020 05:56

I thought you ask about healthcare and benefits during covid-19.

They have given loans and grants to businesses.

Some States are locked down tighter than others.

Some States are opening businesses bit by bit and some have opened beaches and other
areas where people gather. Most wonder what the outcome of that is going to be...more
infection or what.
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