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The betrayal of Trump !

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#1 by Darkstar2 » Fri Jan 08, 2021 17:50

It really amazes me how people have a short memory and how they are so quick to change their stance when it is convenient to them. Years ago, Trump was a hero - he created millions of jobs, he kept the markets afloat, the economy solid and growing year to year and kept the country safe from terrorists - thanks to his policies companies were earning 10% more money, even the ungrateful ones in the far left has benefited from Trump all those years, and yet now, everyone wants him out, OK he has probably said and done things that have made even his own party distance from him, but what I find rather odd are the Democrats and some of his own party claiming he is the worst President history has known - REALLY.......is that so ? Did they forget the 4 years of prosperity, if not for Trump, the economy would STILL be closed right now, and America would be in a great depression if he had to listen to Democrats plea to keep everything shut down - Markets would be in bear territory for all of 2020, with portfolios losing as much money as they did in 2008, and worse !!! Unfortunately Trump's glory ended during the pandemic, it's surprising really because you would think he would treat this virus as he would treat illegals or terrorists, he threw the towel and he did and say stuff that ruined his chances of winning and of his party keeping Senate - not to mention his election that was STOLEN from him by fraud,
but that's another story - as far as the riots and violence, yeah no President should EVER condone or incite such a thing, no matter what, fraud or no fraud, BUT one thing though, people who now say he was the worst President have no damn clue of what they are talking about, because they seem to forget the 4 years where economy was soaring , and if not for this coronashit pandemic, the economy would have kept on growing big time, and the DOW would likely be over 35k, and the Democrats would have no mail-in ballots to as a vessel to allegedly cheat and steal the election. It's ok to talk and condemn Trump's action NOW, but people seem to forget that if markets fared quite well in 2020 considering the SHITTY state of this pandemic, it is thanks to Trump, unfortunately Trump steered off course and in my opinion I think all this was planned as he probably really did not want to run for a second term, I dunno, this is unlike Trump.

And now, the very same people Trump helped, is betraying him, and keep forgetting all the money has has made them.

let's see what these Trump haters say when Biden raises corporate taxes and drives businesses away, off-shore,
let's see what people think when their portfolios will lose a third of its value later this year.

Don't be fooled by the stock market rally, it's going into correction territory very soon, and once Biden opens his big flap about tax hikes, watch the markets plummet.

It's amazing how a person does all good things, and the moment they steer off course and has a bad moment, they are betrayed - Under Obama, America would be in a depression right now, MILLIONS would be out of the job, countless bankruptcies and businesses shut down, and I doubt that Obama would have done any different other than shutting down the entire economy, he would have had no chance to open it back up again, and cases would have gone up again just as well.

It's funny how one always appreciates someone when they are delivering the goods, but when bad times strike, the very same person is treated like a piece of garbage....

Maybe he has no bed side manners, but he has delivered more results than ANY Presidents did in 2 terms.

And the whole "he encouraged violence and riots" is just an excuse - most of the people in the riot were likely just a bunch of bullies who just wanted to vent some steam, nobody actually went to their doors and said "He go and riot and go on a killing spree" it's just an excuse - people still have free will. He should have condemned such acts early on, I guess he has done stuff no Presidents would normally do, whatever, but worst President, in terms of performance, that's more FAKE news propaganda by the communists of the far left. and now they are talking about impeachment again, what a damn JOKE !!! 12 days left for crying out loud, what good will it do ?

Let's not forget the vaccine - Trump did the unthinkable, pushed vaccine makers , pushed for warp speed, opened huge investments to fast forward development for a vaccine in 2020, and it happened - Maybe with another President you would still be waiting for your vaccine. It's funny how people are looking only at Trump NOW, and forgetting what he has done and what he was responsible for. How pathetic. I guess Trump cannot lead in a pandemic, but outside a pandemic he sure can deliver results - Canada could use someone like him, we open our borders to ANYBODY basically, when our government keeps saying they do not have enough money to help our own and our own health care !!!!
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#2 by tasman1 » Fri Jan 08, 2021 18:16

Darkstar , never forget basic ... winners write history not losers , Trump lost and every person in world will now spit on him
Not to mention that every politicians in the world is now scared , if shit happen to American politicians it can happen to them also , even Countries that hate America are now on American side , wow , this is now new history , even N Korea is now ready to kiss American politicians

We are now looking history in making
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#3 by Darkstar2 » Fri Jan 08, 2021 18:40

tasman1 wrote: Darkstar , never forget basic ... winners write history not losers , Trump lost and every person in world will now spit on him

He lost, but did he lose to a fair election, one with a platform that has no control checks to make sure people don't vote more than once.....it's very hard to produce evidence, but if you think about it, there are lots of ways the mail-in ballots could be rigged and go unnoticed, and impossible to prove. Since Trump was a target of the Democrats long before the pandemic even though he was delivering results, there was MOTIVE, but what is done is done now, right ? Imagine had the table been turned and Biden was winning big time until the mail-in ballots were count and Trump got the lead and won, I bet you that Biden and his supporters would have cried foul.

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Not to mention that every politicians in the world is now scared , if shit happen to American politicians it can happen to them also , even Countries that hate America are now on American side , wow , this is now new history , even N Korea is now ready to kiss American politicians

We are now looking history in making

ahahahaha where did you get the idea North Korea is on America's side, it's not quite true - never has, somehow there were some good and bad moments between Trump and N Korea, but things now are going to be much worse with Biden, because unlike Trump, Biden has fueled more hate from North Korea, as Biden made VICIOUS comments and attacks against Kim Jung Un, the kind that would provoke and cause North Korea to hate America even more and build their nuclear arsenal. With Biden in power, expect to see more tensions in the middle east and in North Korea. Trump is a person of words, just words, sometimes fighting words, but that's it........Biden would go to war every chance he gets, supported alongside with Kamala, who is pro war too. It makes me laugh when I hear Biden say he wants to UNITE - unite my arse ! he should start by not creating tensions with countries that can basically destroy America. North Korea would have China, Russia and Iran as allies in a war, how do you think that will end ? Trump did a lot of things, but one thing he knows better than to start wars with other countries, the only war are war of words.

Question is - after this pandemic, and the colossal amount of money spent, with debt reaching new heights that will leave new generations piss poor, what would a war accomplish, imagine the damage, could America sustain the effects of more wars when it is already crippled in debt. Biden probably does not care, statistically he might not be able to run a second term, so he has nothing to lose, and he knows Trump will not run in 2024, it will either be Rosie O'Donnell or Kanye West :mrgreen:
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#4 by tasman1 » Fri Jan 08, 2021 19:33

Darkstar , it is not about N Korea support USA , it is about N Korea say it is wrong for mob try to change politic .... hmmm , do you get that ?

Every politicians now support American politicians in THAT MATTER

In short what they tell us ? We are ruler , you people do not have right to change anything ,,, FREEDOM IS GONE

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#5 by lovemoe » Fri Jan 08, 2021 20:06

Trump has NEVER helped anyone but himself in all his years on this planet.

He didn't create any jobs, the hard-working businesses did that and the workers supported them. All he did was give the super rich tax breaks, while only paying $750 in taxes himself.

He NEVER should have been allowed to run for a government job with all his bankruptcies and scam foundations (stealing from a kids cancer charity!).

I truly hope Americans have learned from this! We are pitied around the world for allowing a con man to run the government. He didn't win the majority of American voters the first time (by almost 3 million votes!) and never should have been given the power that he now he refuses to give up despite a massive lost the second time.
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#6 by tasman1 » Fri Jan 08, 2021 20:38

Another tech platform has taken action against President Donald Trump in connection to Wednesday’s riot at the US Capitol. On Thursday, Twitch disabled the president’s account, meaning he can no longer use the platform to stream to his followers.

In short every person in America is now against Trump

Reason , 2000.00 cheque from democrats , in short people did sold their president and country for 200.00 dollars

Kim from N Korea told me he will give 2100.00 to every person and hope he will get all votes from Americans
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#7 by Darkstar2 » Fri Jan 08, 2021 20:57

lovemoe wrote: Trump has NEVER helped anyone but himself in all his years on this planet.

Welcome to the world of the wealthy, the business and the politicians. He may have helped himself but his results sure has helped many, the stock market seemed to love him and have supported him up until the pandemic, businesses have supported him, why because of his tax reductions, allowing businesses to earn more - something Biden will take away from business with his corporate tax hike to 28%, let's see now, politicians that serve their own interest - you just described every g******* politician out there, sine when does a politician actually do anything to serve the people who vote for them ? The difference here is Trump was never in it for the money, he loves his country, and he wants to keep terrorists and illegals OUT, unfortunately the far left wants to send cruise ships to get them, do you watch the news in Europe people getting beheaded, stabbed, bombed and killed in broad day light, not all about Trump is bad, yeah he has a non conventional way of conveying information and rattling cages, but I don't think his entire term was a disaster - I guess the pandemic crisis was not his best moments and his undoing, but otherwise, business, economy, markets were doing well - it's funny because there were people predicting that if Trump won in 2016 markets would crash and it would be chaos and financial apocalypse, that was far from the truth.

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He didn't create any jobs, the hard-working businesses did that and the workers supported them. All he did was give the super rich tax breaks, while only paying $750 in taxes himself.

Tell me, how many rich people pay their fair share of taxes, how many rich people are 100% honest and transparent - is Trump the big bad wolf of the entire planet ? Maybe his fault is that he is direct and speaks out loud what many people think silently, or where other people would lie or not conceal their true opinions. Not saying Trump is perfect, but if you look at other Presidents and politicians in general, they all had their skeletons, and their fair share of scandals and mischief.

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He NEVER should have been allowed to run for a government job with all his bankruptcies and scam foundations (stealing from a kids cancer charity!).

Right, how many politicians are running or ran, that had a clean record. Speaking of charity, do a search on our PM's involvement and scandals, he is still in power. The moment you have money and influence you basically get away with anything, but if a regular person as much as steals a 25 cent candy from a store, they would get a criminal record and do some jail time. How was he able to get in, well, he had the support of business - that should tell you lots about business in general, did business care about Trump himself, nope, but they knew they were going to get a lucky break, it's all about money in the end, and now all of a sudden businesses have shift their interest to Biden, WHY is that, does that make sense ? It's because businesses are after that BIG check, that BIG stimulus check and the BIG spendings here and there that will add more debt to the country, devalue the dollar, etc - Once the pandemic is over with, and the corporate taxes hike passes, you will see business have a completely different outlook - You say Trump has always served his own interest, well, so do most businesses - it's the bottom line, and F*** the bloody rest essentially, with the exception of some small business or mom & pop type business, but for the most part it's big money interest by any means, so it's no surprise that politicians with a questionable past get the support of the business world, because that world also harbours the same - so it's a perfect match. Still no matter how bad Trump was perceived, 1) economy was doing well, if he was that bad, he could have caused a collapse of the market and negative sentiment all across the board as far as the wall and tight restrictions on immigration - can't blame him for that AT ALL, people in ANY country have the right to feel SAFE in their own country, AT ALL TIMES, without the constant threat of being bombed or killed in the name of a made up God that promises paradise for murder.

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I truly hope Americans have learned from this! We are pitied around the world for allowing a con man to run the government. He didn't win the majority of American voters the first time (by almost 3 million votes!) and never should have been given the power that he now he refuses to give up despite a massive lost the second time.

OK - so how is Biden any better ? any arguments to back it up ? Undoing the wall, looking the other way on illegals and high risk immigrants, raising corporate tax at such a vulnerable time, engaging in provocative words against North Korea and other countries, green agendas that will literally destroy industries and weaken economy and jobs, what has he been doing for the last 40 years ? How is he any better other than his better bed side manners, Trump may not have won by a huge majority, but almost half the country voted for him, Joe BIden's victory is not a HUGE victory either, he had a comfortable lead, but it's by no means the big victory he had hoped for. Their lead in the house is narrower, and the Senate is tied, with Kamala breaking tie, nothing to brag about, country is divided now more than ever, Biden's policies of printing unlimited money and taxing the rich, will only weaken the currency, and add to the colossal debt - is that good ? Does Biden have the magic want to solve all problems ? The good news I think, he is less of a threat than Bernie Sanders :lol: IT's not all bad news though, some stocks will benefit under Biden,
so people who have Trump friendly portfolios should think of changing their portfolios before it's too late :P
Ban ALL petrol cars, seriously, do you know how much it costs to maintain and repair electric cars ? Is he going to give each American a free electric car ? Is he going to pay for installing those solar panels for each homes in America ?

in 2024, who knows who will run for Republican, you might get stuck with Rosie or Kanye, make your pick......
I dunno I have a feeling that people will wish they had voted for Trump, OR Biden will turn out to be the Messiah to save humanity, wave the magic wand and make the virus disappear and make the economy reach new heights, who knows.........

Unfortunately other than the election being such a big fraud, because of the platform that has no controls in place to seed out duplicate voters and fraud, Trump may have had a role also in ruining his re-election due to the pandemic, and leading the GOP to lose Senate race - It could also be a stunt he pulled intentionally as a way out, maybe he didn't want to run a second term, who the hell wants to run another term dealing with this pandemic crap, so maybe he created a situation - as he could never possibly resign - unfortunately bad move, he made some mistakes, but there again, no politician is 100% clean, they just are not as direct as Trump and stay quiet most of the time.

As to people taking Trump's comment on drinking disinfectant seriously, they are ***IDIOTS***, 'nuff said, :P
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#8 by Darkstar2 » Fri Jan 08, 2021 21:21

tasman1 wrote: Another tech platform has taken action against President Donald Trump in connection to Wednesday’s riot at the US Capitol. On Thursday, Twitch disabled the president’s account, meaning he can no longer use the platform to stream to his followers.

In short every person in America is now against Trump

Every Democrat, yes, and unfortunately many of his own party now, but every is a big word, he would have won the election no doubt if not for mail-in ballots, and if not for the China virus. But what's done is done, as to people calling him a con, scammer, etc, people would be surprised if they dug deep and did research on the everyday companies they deal with, what secrets they hide, including popular vaccine makers - yes the research is out there in public and so are the legal cases! People point Trump because he is an open book, he is predictable - whereas a lot of other people hide their secrets deeper, requiring more efforts to dig. Trump's biggest mistake was to downplay the virus, and later claim he KNEW the virus was a danger but did not want to cause panic. BUT, if you look at the entire world, which country did everything right during the pandemic, NONE other than the very country that enabled this snotty little virus due to not be proactive and controlling the outbreak within - China. Trump is no worse than most other politicians around the world in their handling of this bat virus genocide !

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Reason , 2000.00 cheque from democrats , in short people did sold their president and country for 200.00 dollars

Kim from N Korea told me he will give 2100.00 to every person and hope he will get all votes from Americans

So is there anything Trump is not banned from ? Pretty soon he will be banned from the internet - Do the research on how much fake news, fake products, scam merchants, and fraudulent misrepresentation you can find on each of those social medias that banned Trump, it is staggering, and these social medias are pocketing money from that shit, including facebook. Double standards, banning Trump sets a dangerous precedent because these same medias have neglected to ban authors of fake news, conspiracy groups and fraudulent sponsors / ads all over those networks.
This conspiracy theories and fake news merchants are a far bigger threat to public health and safety than Trump !!!
why aren't they banned ? The whole business of banning Trump is purely 100% politics !!! nothing more.
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#9 by Darkstar2 » Tue Jan 12, 2021 20:45

Well what we are witnessing nowadays are Trump supporters shaming their country to the entire world, armed vigilantes and terrorists ? This can't be, this sure does not represent ALL of Trump supporters, but it takes a few idiots to poison the crowd - what a shame that Trump has left a STAIN and destroyed his legacy - that's not a way to leave, it's 50/50 responsibility, he delivered results in his 4 years except for the pandemic, BUT now clearly he seems to have lost his mind now, I mean yeah it's frustrating to lose an election to fraud, but was this fraud enough to make a difference in results ? Still, a civil war, violence, insurrection, whatever, not helping the cause, and what these armed protestors are doing is giving good ammo to the Democrats AND giving Trump supporters a bad name because not every one of them is like that, all they are doing now is helping business and markets to support Biden, the good thing out of this is that the markets won't crash :mrgreen: But once Biden's passes legislation that may be another story we'll see..

Whether Republicans lost to fraud or not does not justify this, hopefully people who threaten and are part of the armed protest will be flagged as terrorists and treated as such - it's DISGUSTING to see PARENTS in the crowd and their kids, truly disgusting, they should ALL be put on no-fly list, banned permanently from ALL travel , and placed on a terrorist list.

Sad for Trump, if he really wanted to win the g________d election and not let down his supporters, he should have taken this China virus more seriously he even admitted himself this virus was a major threat, but he did not want to cause panic, he should have shown more leadership during this pandemic, Trump should have been more diplomatic, he could have made a 2024 comeback, but I guess now he destroyed any chances ...... Trump may have helped the far left, shame ! But not worth getting a criminal record for, all those armed protestors, I mean what will it achieve, will it help Trump, nope, it's only hurting him, because then it gives Fake News media more opportunity to report that all this is Trump's fault............
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#10 by josealvesjr » Wed Jan 13, 2021 03:44

It is Trump´s fault there is no way around it, he wanted to cling to power at all cost and he turned many into his complicities. During his 4 years of constant lying, bullying, intimidation etc., he was able to brainwash many.
He focused all that time on his hardcore supporters and was/is a master in speaking their language and understands their so called grievances. He told/tells and acted on what they want(ed) to hear and wanted to be done. He is a master at" if you repeat a lie over and over again" it will (start to) stick.
The election was not stolen, there was no election fraud and if there was any it was commited by both sides. Nonetheless, many Republicans say there was (even though in their heart they know better) because they cannot stand the defeat that Multiracial America has spoken and many voters simply wanted Trump out. Multiracial America is a big fear and concern among Republicans and far-right groups.
Trump does not have the welfare of America at heart he never had and never will. It was and is all about him. When he became president he said that he would "Govern America" as it were a company. Well we all know how he kept himself going all these years.Bankruptcy after Bankruptcy, lawsuit after lawsuit, bullying, lying, intimidating, manipulating and bluffing.
He is very much aware that his real personal problems are about to begin after January 20. For him the cling to power was the only remedy to take care of these awaiting problems which started to take shape already.
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#11 by tasman1 » Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:34

Chapter 1 ...........................Betrayal of Jesus Christ [ year not known ]

Chapter 2 ...........................Betrayal of Donald Trump [ year 2021 ]

Chapter 3............................Betrayal of all Gods [ year 2022 ]

Chapter 4........................... Betrayal of all humans [ years 2022 ]

Chapter 5............................Satan lost job , no humans , no sin [ year 2023 ]

Chapter 6 ...........................Planet start recovery [ year 2024 ]

Chapter 7 ...........................Planet fully recovered [ year 2100]

Chapter 8............................Application for new , better humans production rejected by God [ year 2101 ]
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#12 by josealvesjr » Wed Jan 13, 2021 13:37

tasman1 wrote: Chapter 1 ...........................Betrayal of Jesus Christ [ year not known ]

Chapter 2 ...........................Betrayal of Donald Trump [ year 2021 ]

Chapter 3............................Betrayal of all Gods [ year 2022 ]

Chapter 4........................... Betrayal of all humans [ years 2022 ]

Chapter 5............................Satan lost job , no humans , no sin [ year 2023 ]

Chapter 6 ...........................Planet start recovery [ year 2024 ]

Chapter 7 ...........................Planet fully recovered [ year 2100]

Chapter 8............................Application for new , better humans production rejected by God [ year 2101 ]

When God pulls out the plug, that is it, no more humans. God will be practically alone in paradise, hardly anybody qualified and passed the test. That human experiment went wrong and was in favor of the devil since the beginning.
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#13 by valerie » Thu Jan 14, 2021 18:55

As an American in my 60's and well educated, I do know a little about American government
and I try to be non-bias in my opinions. I prefer to know the facts.

I was for Trump and still am but no point since he did not get re-elected.

Those that say Trump did nothing during his presidency, is totally incorrect.

But lets start with the capital riot. Trump never told anyone to storm the capital.
What he did say was walk down the streets and protest.

In America, peaceful protests are allowed. There is nothing corrupt or wrong with
choosing to protest in a peaceful manner.

If you realized the facts, you would also know that the majority of protesters were
in fact peaceful. It was actually a very small percentage of people that created
havoc. Those people that did violent acts, are those that get off on doing so all the
time. What I mean by that, that is their life. That is what they want to do no matter
what. Are you familiar with Hells Angels Biker Organization? Most people are. There
are those 'wannabe' groups that enjoy attention and want to raise hell wherever they
can and do so in the name of freedom.

Unfortunately, many journalists today have lost their ethics. Now it is about money
and how far they can go on the power line. We can look at people such as Megan Kelly
as a good example. She worked for Fox News, then went to another broadcast and
even went on to have her own show. She didn't care about you or about the people.
She cared about herself, what she could do for herself, what she could gain for herself.

Perhaps I should not use the term 'today' so sparingly because I can remember even
as a kid, how journalists/media could destroy a person. A person could be innocent but
if the media found the person guilty, their life was destroyed.

A lot of people did not and do not like Trump because he is a prick and an asshole and
he says whatever he wants to say and does not sugar coat his words. The media did a
good job at bringing about any and every piece of dirt on him they could.

And this is where the shit hits the fan. This is where society needs a rude awakening.

Do we want people to do the job they were hired to do?
Or
Do we want people in office that are nice but lie to us and not do their job?

People want to look at morals but who has scruples today?

I'm not looking for Roosevelt. He does not exist any more.

I do believe whoever is president of the USA, should be respected. Here is the issue
again. People lack respect. I didn't vote for Obama and I did not like him but he was
our president and I respected him.

People have been extremely nasty to president Trump and as soon as he stepped into
office, they have focused time and tax payer money on getting him out any way and
any excuse they could find.

President Trump would have done even more IF the democrats would have let him.
To say he has not done anything, is absurd.

President Trump did a LOT for America. As a man, I do not like him. As a president,
I liked a lot of what he did for America, not everything, but a lot.

I don't believe for even one second that Trump causes the deaths of Americans with
covid-19. Here again, all built up to make it look like Trump is the cause of people
dying from covid.

They even tried over and over and over again to call Trump a racist.

Under Trump, poverty rates for African Americans and Hispanic Americans reached their lowest levels since the U.S. began collecting such data.

Pre COVID-19, African American unemployment was at an all-time low.

The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans.

The First Step Act’s reforms addressed inequities in sentencing laws that disproportionately harmed African Americans, and reformed mandatory minimums that created unfair outcomes.

Trump signed the first Perkins C.T.E. reauthorization since 2016, authorizing more than $1 billion for states each year to fund vocational and career education programs.

The lowest-paid 25% of Americans had a 4.5% income boost in November 2019, which outpaces a 2.9% gain in earnings for the country’s highest-paid workers. This benefits African Americans because many, according to Associated Press research cited in 2018 by USA TODAY, are in low-paying jobs.

Under Trump’s leadership, in 2018 the U.S. surpassed Russia and Saudi Arabia to become the world’s largest producer of crude oil.

The Trump administration made a deal with the European Union to increase U.S. energy exports to Europe.

It withdrew the U.S. from the job-killing Trans-Pacific Partnership, a major change in trade policy.

The Trump Administration secured $250 billion in new trade and investment deals in China and $12 billion in Vietnam.

It approved up to $12 billion in aid for farmers affected by unfair trade retaliation, but announced a total of $28 billion in aid for farmers in 2018 and 2019.

Other accomplishments include a dozen hostages freed, moving the U.S. embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, initiating historic tax cut legislation for Opportunity Zones and fulfilling his campaign promise to improve the Veterans Administration, just to name a few.

The above italic by John Floyd article from Trump's long list of accomplishments

The above, is truly a short list.

A lot of people vote without even knowing what they are voting for.
A lot of people have no idea why or how this voting election could be fraudulent AND
a lot of people do not realize that the president has every constitutional right for a
recount and an investigation.

I would recommend people do their research and get the facts.

I respect president elect Biden and I hope he will do a great job but I am not so sure
he is running the show or if he will even make it to the finale.
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#14 by tasman1 » Thu Jan 14, 2021 19:34

To Valerie ..........this is new world

This is my twit that gave me over 350 likes and replays,,, here it is

Who killed Donald Trump

Current US President ..........Facebook
Current Vice President .........Twitter
Current US Senate ..............Rest of social media
Current US Congress ...........All fake media news

Plus my opinion is that Democrats in US are desperate to divide and start revolution or better said great divide in US
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#15 by splat44 » Tue Jan 19, 2021 08:51

It has nothing to do with memories shortage but yes, it could be true Mr. Trump done some good but when He done some harm, should He not pay for it as criminals do! Imaging causing criminals not paying the wrong they did based on good they done!

We are talking about national security

I remember Kim Campbell (one of PC leader Canada) making of Liberal leader and did rather questionable action. She got spoken understandably harsh and was force to resign! Most of PC party back then turned against her!
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#16 by tasman1 » Tue Jan 19, 2021 13:58

ALL Humans are now all just a big BETRAYAL [ This shit started 2000 years ago and it is getting worst and worst ]

One example here in Australia

Djokovic , top tennis player was declared here for Saint and best person ever in Australia helping Australia and organizing millions in donation for biggest bushfire in Australian history

Now he did complaint about food in Australian hotels [ all tennis players who come to play in Australian Open are in quarantine ]

Now every Australian spit on him ,,,, how he dare complain , Australia is lucky , the best , superior country in the world

Short memory , but yeah 99.9999% of all humans are now same

Any value saving any human on this planet ? In my opinion NO , Think planet will do better WITHOUT humans
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#17 by AbuWaheeb » Tue Jan 26, 2021 14:48

I wonder how long it's still going to take for all humankind to be united under one common authority. And it will come, believe it, don't know when but it's coming. There are countless signs that speak of his arrival. Hope to meet him before my life ends, how grand it would be to shake his hand and to stand by his side. When he comes, all international political conflicts, wars, hunger, bickering, terrorism, instability, human rights violations, corruption, prostitution, murders, greed, jealousy, anger, doubt, wasting of world resources, lies, anarchy, riots, violence, child abuse, discrimination, racism, animal cruelty, slaughtering of animals for food....profit...or entertainment, different religions, prisons, courts, lawyers, politicians, country borders, different languages, competing with one another for foolish reason, indecisiveness, poisoning of the environment, corporations, lobbyists, indoctrinating schools, religious institutions of every faith, banks and bankers, old laws, old beliefs, old traditions, the Vatican, drug cartels, smuggler rings, slave labor practices, thievery, sadness, misery, depression and monetary currency of any kind shall be abolished when he has finally arrived, we shall follow him and protect him. He will reward us with his number and grand us access to paradise triggering our new birth. It will be grand.
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#18 by tasman1 » Tue Jan 26, 2021 17:57

AbuWaheeb wrote: I wonder how long it's still going to take for all humankind to be united under one common authority. And it will come, believe it, don't know when but it's coming. There are countless signs that speak of his arrival. Hope to meet him before my life ends, how grand it would be to shake his hand and to stand by his side. When he comes, all international political conflicts, wars, hunger, bickering, terrorism, instability, human rights violations, corruption, prostitution, murders, greed, jealousy, anger, doubt, wasting of world resources, lies, anarchy, riots, violence, child abuse, discrimination, racism, animal cruelty, slaughtering of animals for food....profit...or entertainment, different religions, prisons, courts, lawyers, politicians, country borders, different languages, competing with one another for foolish reason, indecisiveness, poisoning of the environment, corporations, lobbyists, indoctrinating schools, religious institutions of every faith, banks and bankers, old laws, old beliefs, old traditions, the Vatican, drug cartels, smuggler rings, slave labor practices, thievery, sadness, misery, depression and monetary currency of any kind shall be abolished when he has finally arrived, we shall follow him and protect him. He will reward us with his number and grand us access to paradise triggering our new birth. It will be grand.





Nah , he will not come , he is to old to travel and he lost his govt travel concession to travel
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#19 by Darkstar2 » Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:36

josealvesjr wrote: It is Trump´s fault there is no way around it, he wanted to cling to power at all cost and he turned many into his complicities. During his 4 years of constant lying, bullying, intimidation etc., he was able to brainwash many.

Interesting - you just described politics as a whole - what politician out there is not constantly lying, they even lie during their sleep :mrgreen: OK mind you Trump has his own "unique" ways, and yes he did lie, but which politician before him didn't lie ? Do you think Obama was a saint, there is a big bullshiter deep inside the exterior, I mean Trump did not have bed side manners nor did he follow protocol, but not ALL 4 years of his presidency were bad, he delivered results, the problem is, this was re-election year, and he was not going to give two f***s about this damn pandemic - and sadly it cost him his re-election - he treated this virus as a walk in the park, and later admitted publicly that he knew the dangers of this virus way ahead of time but did not want to cause panic - then he said things that normally Presidents DO THINK but don't say aloud, his mouth got him into trouble. People are looking at the bad sides of Trump, the exterior, and nobody said Trump was perfect, the difference is, when Trump is lying, it is obvious, when other politicians are lying, they are better at it, i.e. Obama, Bush, etc) - Trump cares about the economy and jobs, he is influenced a lot by the markets, and he cares more for business than anything else, and it shows, tax relief for businesses were welcomed, and this translated to more companies investing, he has managed to keep the markets quite healthy despite him pissing off some people, mostly the far left that were on a constant witch hunt and don't know better ! BUT he messed up big time during his campaign, treating this China virus pandemic like a joke, not having a strong stance against violence, police brutality, extremism, etc, cost him many precious votes within key groups.....I don't need to mention the groups you KNOW.......... Biden on the other hand takes the pandemic seroiusly, BUT unfortunately it is at a stage where things will be difficult - the whole vaccine logistics is a mess, some his plans are good, but his tight regulations and tax hikes will likely rattle investors and cause a weakened economy - he publicly stated that he does not give a damn about the stock market, of course easy for him to say he has tons of money stashed aside, I'm not worried for him or his family should there be a great depression - they will have enough money.......he should think of Americans who are working hard to build their nest egg for when they retire, if Biden does not give a shit about the market, then maybe he doesn't realise that milions of jobs will be lost under his presidency, many Americans will see their savings and investments drop down by nearly half if things go south.......and so far, the markets are on that path, signals everywhere of a correction and U or possibly L recovery. SHORT TERM, Biden winning is not a bad thing, LONG TERM, Trump would have been the better choice for the economy and jobs, because once this pandemic crap is over, Biden will apply new legislation that are not too popular with investors and business or economy in general. Another good thing about Trump - the wall and restricting travel from high risk countries, he wants Americans to be SAFE in their own country and not worrying about high radicalism, like what is happening in most of Europe now, can you blame him for that ? Biden is the exact opposite. I think the bulk of Trump's support comes from that - Americans (at least half of them anyway) don't want terrorists or illegals - But there is a problem now - lately the terrorism and violence comes form WITHIN - from Americans themselves !!!! Trump did not have any stance opposing such behaviour, you see, if you want to keep radicals and terrorists away, you must also treat the local radicals the same way..........so yeah I guess PROS and CONS for both, but for Trump, definitely economy, jobs and wealth. If Biden wants to destroy the wall and welcome any illegal or criminal / terrorist with open-arms then that is not something anybody should support.

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The election was not stolen,

If not for the CCP+WHO negligence, there would be no pandemic, and you can be sure Trump would have won this one, big time, because of Trump's unorthodox behavour, his ONLY key to winning a re-election would be the state of the economy........without this g............. pandemic, he had the key........so yeah, this pandemic has stolen his odds, mind you, he could have still won had he taken the pandemic seriously though. As to fraud, no fraud, I don't think so, when you have a system which does not verify or have control in place to ID each and every vote, then it open doors to cheating, you can have dead people voting, you can have clones of people voting.............No doubt in my mind there was MOTIVE there for democrat voters to cheat - question is, was there enough fraud to have made a difference either way ? You can't prove that, nobody can, given the results in key states, it looks to me like Trump lost enough voters in key demographics, that would have made that difference - eliminating any fraud ballots would likely have not changed the outcome, unless the fraud was massive in ALL those key states - again, even though there is every motive for Democrats to have stolen this election, unfortunately, this is not something courts can go by.

The only good news out of this election - The GOP made some gains in the House, and the Senate is SPLIT, where now Kamala would break any tie on a tie - SO, what this means is that it will essentially be more of a challenge for Biden to pass some legislation, of course it would have been much better had the GOP kept control of the Senate, but it could have been worse too, and it's very likely the GOP will win mid terms in 2022.........so it's not all bad.

as to Trump well yeah he made a lot of mistakes lately, he should have been more diplomatic and instead run in 2024......but I have a feeling that Trump wanted out and he does not want to run in 2024, just words........Americans will only start feeling the side effects of a Biden economy, further down the line, when this pandemic is over, because right now I don't think Biden will raise any taxes or do anything drastic yet, Biden knows better, it would not be wise to be unpopular his first 100 days in power........but Americans might not be happy with their returns on portfolio down the line, and not just Americans, because ALL markets are in the shite right now, and it directly affects Canada too, the S&P / TSX is going down the crap lately......

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Trump does not have the welfare of America at heart he never had and never will. It was and is all about him. When he became president he said that he would "Govern America" as it were a company. Well we all know how he kept himself going all these years.Bankruptcy after Bankruptcy, lawsuit after lawsuit, bullying, lying, intimidating, manipulating and bluffing.
He is very much aware that his real personal problems are about to begin after January 20. For him the cling to power was the only remedy to take care of these awaiting problems which started to take shape already.

If you dig deep, you will find out that those attributes concern a lot of company leaders out there, you just don't hear about it because they are not running a country........ Trump can be a lot of things, but not caring or having the welfare at heart is not entirely true - he didn't build a wall or apply new restrictions just for his own interests, he wants Americans to be SAFE - unfortunately, Trump did not / does not realise that more and more of the radicalism and violence was happening WITHIN.......

Do you think Biden can do any better ? ahahahaha yeah - half of America supports Trump, how the hell does he want to unite people when half are against him, most Americans want to be SAFE, some of Biden's agendas go completely AGAINST that........... On that note, yeah Trump cannot run a country like he runs his companies :lol: Fortunately though he did some good things in the 4 years, probably more than any politicians preceding him!
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#20 by Darkstar2 » Sat Jan 30, 2021 14:13

valerie wrote: As an American in my 60's and well educated, I do know a little about American government
and I try to be non-bias in my opinions. I prefer to know the facts.

I was for Trump and still am but no point since he did not get re-elected.

Those that say Trump did nothing during his presidency, is totally incorrect.

Exactly, even for the skeptics out there, he did rattle a lot of cages, that should count for SOMETHING :mrgreen:

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But lets start with the capital riot. Trump never told anyone to storm the capital.
What he did say was walk down the streets and protest.

But apparently there were videos and audio leaked where he was just sitting there and watching all that and doing nothing. Obviously he did not ask people to bring ammunition to the riots, but what did he expect, peaceful protests ? :P Yeah the whole Trump Impeachment thing is just another witch hunt from the far left, that's old news, I too don't recall him asking people to storm the Capitol with guns and rocket launchers, but others might argue different, that his words got people fueled inside, and some people in the riots when arrested did claim that they are following Trump's orders - so either Trump was lying or people in the riots are complete and utter idiots who misinterpreted Trump's "go rally" as being go to war.......... Maybe this is what happened in the end and Trump is taking the fall, conveniently once again for the purpose of the left side. That said, one has to look at both sides, Trump's neutral stance against violence and extremism within in general has bee frowned upon even by his own party and some of his supporters. Not ALL Trump supporters are bullies, criminals, and trigger happy ........

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In America, peaceful protests are allowed. There is nothing corrupt or wrong with
choosing to protest in a peaceful manner.

Same in Canada, problem is, statistically it is unrealistic to expect that protests will always be peaceful, especially when you are talking about one of the most stressful and important elections in the world - All eyes were on Trump, and nobody saw coming that he would be shafted in his own key states, also the far left side argue that Trump's constant claims about election being STOLEN might have fueled violence........ BUT there again, legally can someone be held accountable for such a thing ? I guess not - Trump did not ask people to go to war, BUT realistically, given the circumstances behind the riot, one would have to be completely naive to expect that this protest would have been a peaceful one. Now about impeachment the whole thing is a massive JOKE and a big waste of damn time, more nonsense yet again from Democrats, instead of dealing with stimulus and pandemic, didn't they learn their lesson once, YET they feel the need they have to go at him again, even though he lost and is out, that's low, why use resources and time on something there is no way the Senate will vote on, there is no way Senate will have enough votes to impeach him, they will impeach him on what.......what they THINK happened or FACTS ? Yes Trump made a mistake not to have a strong stance against violence, but he did NOT ask for violence, so the whole impeachment is just another show down from the communist far left to discredit a fallen President and kick and already fallen President that is already on the ground that's disgusting ! and as to blocking him from running in 2024, again, totally hypocritical. It should be up to the people to decide but anyway.........I guess people made their choice, they decided to vote for the sock puppet with good manners, let's see now how this translates into numbers in the next 4 years, this is not just America, but Canada, because when America gets syphilis, we get sick here in Canada :lol:

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If you realized the facts, you would also know that the majority of protesters were
in fact peaceful. It was actually a very small percentage of people that created
havoc. Those people that did violent acts, are those that get off on doing so all the
time.

EXACTLY Valerie - spot on ! These vigilante violent extremists of society are out there, it's not about supporting Trump, it's about seizing the opportunity of a protest to infiltrate and cause chaos, we see this all the time in some Canadian provinces, they give a bad image, because the whole world then thinks Trump supporters are violent criminals, which is not the case at all - I personally know quite a few Trump supporters who were quite disappointed and shocked at some of Trump's actions, but they are not all violent, OK, some are but only when provoked - you can see the YouTube videos :lol:

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what. Are you familiar with Hells Angels Biker Organization? Most people are. There
are those 'wannabe' groups that enjoy attention and want to raise hell wherever they
can and do so in the name of freedom.

Hence their name :lol: Yeah we have Hell's Angel cells here in Canada in some provinces, though so many years ago I heard on the national news that a lot of them were arrested and dismantled. They are not as bad or dangerous though as the street gangs - this is why I will ALWAYS be a Trump supporter no matter what, I want to be safe in my own country and not worry about criminals and terrorists, BUT I also want a politician who has a strong stance against the gang violence and extremism WITHIN.......Canadian politicians are doing a shitty job at that, Canada is ridden with gang violence scattered in many provinces, there are more and more crimes committed in broad day light, more and more random crimes committed by gangs - With Mafia and Hells Angels, Rock Machine, etc, these are ORGANISED groups, rarely do they commit crimes against regular people, they mostly fight amongst themselves......with street gangs that's different, they have initiations and they can kill random people, if you are the wrong mf'ing place at the wrong time, you are done - it's not uncommon to have rival gang wars in some parts of big cities, not uncommon for regular innocent people to get caught in the cross fire or catch a f'ing bullet by ricochet .......... and a lot of our criminals here come from America ! because these gangs first started in America and expanded their operations in Canada, if he had someone like TRUMP here to refuse to get such criminals in the first place, we would be better off.
Maybe now that Biden is sending cruise ships to bring in the illegal and terrorists, maybe here in Canada we will have less of them, because they will rather go live the "American Dream" first :P When are politicians going to wake the bloody F up and stop trying to be politically correct and take hard decisions that are not always popular, in the name of SAFETY and PROSPERITY - no hard criminals, illegals or radicals should EVER be welcomed, only people who contribute in a POSITIVE way to society should be welcomed....nothing wrong with that. There are people who fill in the paper work like everybody else to get in, why should illegals get a free pass..............that goes for anything in life, and the less informed people (a more polite way of saying ignorants) who call Trump a racist, don't even KNOW the definition, it's not about race, it's about what's right, Trump welcomes immigration always has, but through the normal process.
Biden on the other hand, well it's a big joke, let's see how many of those illegals will contribute to prosperity. I think Biden wants them to secure his popularity and Democratic votes....it's all a political move more than anything else, whereas Trump's move is for the country's best interest and SAFETY, not his own and certainly not politics, because Trump's decisions are the least popular, but they deliver the most results.

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Unfortunately, many journalists today have lost their ethics. Now it is about money
and how far they can go on the power line. We can look at people such as Megan Kelly
as a good example. She worked for Fox News, then went to another broadcast and
even went on to have her own show. She didn't care about you or about the people.
She cared about herself, what she could do for herself, what she could gain for herself.

I agree 100000% Valerie, that is so true, a lot of them are corrupt, and the top priority is self-wroth more than anything else. They can switch sides too - if being Anti Trump is popular, they will run the propaganda fake news machine, if being Pro Trump is popular, they will blast the far left every chance they get, they don't give a shit, what matters are ratings and their progression of their careers.

We have the same thing here - I've been following press conferences sine day 1 here about this pandemic, never ONCE have I heard journalists ask the most IMPORTANT questions, the kind of difficult questions most people want answers to, NOPE, they play it safe instead, asking the same damn questions we've heard a million times. Luckily there are some pandemic specific shows where they read questions people send by e-mail or call in on the air, and what a shocking difference, when it is non journalists, the questions are VERY good, these are the questions that the journalists should be the ones asking but aren't......... Some journalists are just a bunch of cocksuckers that operate based on what is best for their trade and not for the people - when are journalists going to stop being afraid of asking the REAL questions, instead of being on a witch hunt and trying to attack Trump, because honestly, I don't think that ANY of them could have done better. Why the HELL aren't any journalists asking the difficult questions, such as about this vaccine, when the bloody hell are we going to start seeing results, what about the new variants, what is being done about finding the source of the virus, what is being done about sanctions against China, etc. etc. etc. why the hell did the WHO take so much time to finally decide to go to Wuhan to "investigate" the origins of the damn virus, so much time has passed, giving China enough time to hide the evidence, and now all of a sudden the WHO wants to get in and investigate, when the evidence is likely all erased, what a joke - journalists should wake up and ask the tough questions !!!!

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Perhaps I should not use the term 'today' so sparingly because I can remember even
as a kid, how journalists/media could destroy a person. A person could be innocent but
if the media found the person guilty, their life was destroyed.

EXACTLY !!! And how ironic Valerie, it was a journalist that convinced Trump to run for President, and it is journalism that has tarnished his name with fake news and propaganda.

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A lot of people did not and do not like Trump because he is a prick and an asshole and
he says whatever he wants to say and does not sugar coat his words. The media did a
good job at bringing about any and every piece of dirt on him they could.

They did didn't they ? BUT have you noticed, that they didn't do as much damage with other Presidents that fit that category ? But they used Trump as a punching bag.........funny isn't it ? Because that description sure fits a lot of Presidents - it's not because someone has good manners and follows protocol that they are genuine and "GOOD"...... yeah Trump does not sugar coat his words and he thinks aloud what many think, that might be his downfall but those hypocrite journalists out there should be thankful to Trump that 1) they had a job during those 4 years 2) they had good solid returns on their investments....assuming any of them have money invested.......and many do, because running fake news media generates a lot of money :D

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And this is where the shit hits the fan. This is where society needs a rude awakening.

Do we want people to do the job they were hired to do?
Or
Do we want people in office that are nice but lie to us and not do their job?

Wow couldn't have said it better myself, even though I have said it many times :mrgreen:
I support most of Trump's agendas, to be honest I do not support some of Trump's strategy and methods, and I certainly STRONGLY oppose how he has handled this GENOCIDE of COVID19 - from the very same country he had all the energy in the world to rattle, YET when it came to the pandemic he decided to throw the towel, so yeah Trump messed up big time, BUT the essence here goes along well with what you said, do you want someone with good bed side manners and protocol that runs the politics game, making big promises never kept OR someone with a big mouth who rattles a lot of cages but does the job ? Hmmm the choice should be easy - HOWEVER let's be fair, there are some of Trump's actions or lack of thereof, during this pandemic that has cost a lot of lives......... BUT on the flip side of the coin, you cannot lock down the entire economy forever, people are going to go into depression, kill themselves, and when you re-open deaths will skyrocket anyway...... The ONLY good thing Trump did during this pandemic is re-open the economy - it's all up to PEOPLE to wear the damn masks, wash their filthy, crusty hands and remain distant......more people died as a result of Trump re-opening, BUT it's not Trump who has killed them, it's the IDIOTS, the IGNORANT who did not want to wear a mask and contribute to spreading the virus.......not all is Trump's fault. Of course Trump did not wear a mask, so he was not the right example.........he seldom is anyway :P but who can do a better job in the long term is clear to me - his stance on illegals and outside radicalism wins my support, if voting only on pandemic, then yes he does not deserve to win- if voting based on results in the 4 years, then clearly to me he is the best, I'd rather have someone that is an obvious liar, than someone that is a professional liar hiding deep beneath the narcissism like other politicians. WELL the good news Valerie, at least you didn't end up with Bernie Sanders :lol:
So now regardless of this, I think Americans should now learn to put everything aside and unite - After all Biden is their President, and anybody that purposely tries to sabotage him are just hurting themselves - Americans should focus now on this pandemic, not on some bullshit impeachment witch hunt.......

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I'm not looking for Roosevelt. He does not exist any more.

ahahaha yeah lots have changed - people say and do things now that they would have dared do in those times.
Now you have kids cussing their parents and beating them and parents doing nothing, you can't even lay a hand on a student anymore without being sued.........Society has changed, now you have Presidents using the F bomb - you have teachers, judges cussing, talking to their students the same way they are spoken to, etc......

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I do believe whoever is president of the USA, should be respected. Here is the issue
again. People lack respect. I didn't vote for Obama and I did not like him but he was
our president and I respected him.

I could not stand watching him, every time I watched him speak , I had this image of a muppet in my mind.
I don't know about you, but ACTIONS speak louder than words, in my opinion Obama was so full of ho air,
I cannot believe people pay thousands of $ to go to his seminars only to be brainwashed solid ! As to Biden,
no doubt in my mind he is in a different league to Obama, even though some of his politics are not necessarily the best for the economy, he deserves a chance, he wanted so badly to win, now people should give him the chance for him to do his thing......He might actually do a good job for the remainder of this pandemic - my biggest worry is when comes time for the new policies, tight regulations, corporate tax hikes and dismantling of wall, loosening immigration, so Biden said he is catholic and wants to unite America, well for starters, you better keep the radicals away, and make sure people who come in do so through the right process like anybody else.

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People have been extremely nasty to president Trump and as soon as he stepped into
office, they have focused time and tax payer money on getting him out any way and
any excuse they could find.

People who have been nasty to Trump are the same people who have benefited from him during the 4 years, but now when they see that he is down and stood no chance, they stomped on him like he was dung, hence the term "betrayal of Trump"...... instead of people just focusing on pointing out Trump's flaws, they made him one big worthless monster, nobody mentioned how their 401k went up during those years, nobody.......and now maybe a year or two down the line when Americans are going to check their 401k balance and see 30-50% less money there, they might ponder on whether they made the right choice......but it will be too late then.

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President Trump would have done even more IF the democrats would have let him.
To say he has not done anything, is absurd.

True, they wanted to impeach him for allegations of 2016 vote rigging - isn't it ironic, they had no evidence, but now Trump and his party is doing the same, but the democrats are yelling foul, well they did the same didn't they ? :P It's all a game of shoving match between 2 parties, one supporting sharia law and socialism and one party supporting wealth, business, national security.........people clearly vote with emotions not by who is truly the best to get things done......same here in Canada, proof is, our current PM :D

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President Trump did a LOT for America. As a man, I do not like him. As a president,
I liked a lot of what he did for America, not everything, but a lot.

Mhm, so you judge someone based on their ACTIONS and RESULTS, that's good. and yes I agree he could have done more without the sabotaging of his plans by the left side. he said he would build a wall during his 2016 election campaign, people knew ahead of time, and he did it, and now all his efforts are in vein. Unfortunately elections have become a popularity contest, just like those series like Britain's Got Talent, X-Factor and other series where the truly talented and deserving people mostly never make it, it's come to that, popularity over talent. But some points made about Trump are valid he did rattle cages, and he did say stuff normally no President should say, and he is a bad liar too, but there is a sucker born every minute, and to think people actually have taken his "drink Chlorox" seriously is mind boggling, to think some Americans are that DUMB to actually have tried this ........smh!

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I don't believe for even one second that Trump causes the deaths of Americans with
covid-19. Here again, all built up to make it look like Trump is the cause of people
dying from covid.

People might debate he has been indirectly responsible by not mandating masks, given the example, taken the virus seriously, impose more restrictions in states, etc. BUT...........the deaths came from STUPIDITY - because Trump did have many experts in his staff that continually told people to wear masks, wash your bloody hands, don't engage in crowds or risky activities, keep a 6m distance, etc - Trump can't have a single police for every 350 million Americans, politicians can't do all the work, the war on COVID19 starts with PEOPLE following the F rules - even if Trump did not give the right example to lead, his experts gave ample warnings and guidelines, so there is no excuse and yes blaming Trump for this is ABSURD !!! So what if Trump had kept everything locked down, then what, more lives saved ? Yes, but only temporarily, then what ? He would have to re-open some day, and then what, cases skyrocket, and deaths too......BUT if people learn to live with this virus and followed guidelines, there would be far less cases and deaths.
It's ABSURD, I even heard absurd theories that Trump helped engineer the virus, I dunno who makes up this bullshit, but Trump is not in the business of creating pandemics, at least not during re-elections, that's the job of another country I have in mind :P

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They even tried over and over and over again to call Trump a racist.

Yeah it's very easy to use the race card when you have nothing else....... Not wanting criminals, illegals and radical/terrorists suddenly made him a racist, do people really know the true definition of racism ? And NO Trump is not an Islamophobic either - He does not want people coming from high risk countries where radicalism is high, it's not a question of race or religion to him, and yes it is sad that the actions of a few harm the rest of society, but that's the price to pay. Take surveys for example, some routers don't pay instantly, take YourSurveys, they have a policy to review surveys for all Indian members due to high risk and fraud coming from that country, this comes directly from YourSurveys when I asked them directly years ago, does that mean that 100% of Indian are cheaters, NO, definitely not, and the honest Indians have to pay the price - Is the company running YourSurveys racist ? Hardly, they just want to protect their business, it's normal, it's not about race, country, colour...... So the whole Trump is racist is complete fabrication from people who are in denial and do not accept reason - FACT is radicalism is very high in some countries, not ALL people in these countries have the same views, BUT statistically radicalism is high, it is sad for the good people of those countries to pay the price, but I think in 2021 we are in an era where difficult decisions must be taken especially in a world where violence is on the rise.

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Under Trump, poverty rates for African Americans and Hispanic Americans reached their lowest levels since the U.S. began collecting such data.

Pre COVID-19, African American unemployment was at an all-time low.

The Pledge to America’s Workers has resulted in employers committing to train more than 4 million Americans.

The First Step Act’s reforms addressed inequities in sentencing laws that disproportionately harmed African Americans, and reformed mandatory minimums that created unfair outcomes.

Trump signed the first Perkins C.T.E. reauthorization since 2016, authorizing more than $1 billion for states each year to fund vocational and career education programs.

The lowest-paid 25% of Americans had a 4.5% income boost in November 2019, which outpaces a 2.9% gain in earnings for the country’s highest-paid workers. This benefits African Americans because many, according to Associated Press research cited in 2018 by USA TODAY, are in low-paying jobs.

Under Trump’s leadership, in 2018 the U.S. surpassed Russia and Saudi Arabia to become the world’s largest producer of crude oil.

The Trump administration made a deal with the European Union to increase U.S. energy exports to Europe.

It withdrew the U.S. from the job-killing Trans-Pacific Partnership, a major change in trade policy.

The Trump Administration secured $250 billion in new trade and investment deals in China and $12 billion in Vietnam.

It approved up to $12 billion in aid for farmers affected by unfair trade retaliation, but announced a total of $28 billion in aid for farmers in 2018 and 2019.

Other accomplishments include a dozen hostages freed, moving the U.S. embassy in Israel to Jerusalem, initiating historic tax cut legislation for Opportunity Zones and fulfilling his campaign promise to improve the Veterans Administration, just to name a few.

Great you know your stuff, now tell me Valerie, how many American voters out there could even name a fraction of the stuff you mentioned....when a lot of Americans cannot even point their state on a map ? :lol: You see people vote with emotions and vote for the more popular, do people take the time to make a list of accomplishments like you did, so nicely........Barely. Unfortunately enough African Americans vote against Trump, they were influenced by the many events that happened, where police killed unarmed African Americans, a disgusting public view in the media, why the HELL were these events happening so frequently and during re-election ....... if I didn't know better I would say that this was setup - the whole George Floyd event was unreal I could not believe something like that could happen in 2021...... Truth is police have the RIGHT to shoot to kill if they are in danger or someone else is in danger, regardless of skin colour, but some of these events were clearly the act of criminals with a badge ! sad and pathetic.
but of course at the time it was popular to blame Trump for everything. How many Hispanics and African-American people could even enumerate 1 or 2 of your pints raised above...I'm curious to know that too, people are not following the good stuff Trump did, people are using NEWS as benchmark, no wonder............ If Trump had a report card based only on the pandemic, he would get an F-, but taking into account everything you have mentioned above, the least he should get is a passing grade, because he has done far more than a lot of Presidents, and he has been a far better President to minorities than ANY of the sock puppets preceding him, it's sad that people use the race card without analysing FACTS first.

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I respect president elect Biden and I hope he will do a great job but I am not so sure
he is running the show or if he will even make it to the finale.

I do not agree with everything Biden stands for but I too wish him the best, I never wish bad health upon anybody, some people are practically wishing he would die before his term, that is unacceptable, I never would stand for that, he is a HUMAN BEING, and SOME of his views also align with TRUMP, albeit some of his agendas are not the best for the economy, I think Americans should let him do his job, regardless of anything else, because in the end if he is sabotaged, Americans are hurting themselves........ Let's see if Biden can put his words into action, I do wish him good health and I hope he can re-think some of his strategies, hopefully a split senate and GOP gains in the House will make it more difficult for Biden to pass some of the more damaging legislation. Am I confident Biden is a good choice long term, nope, he has better manners than Trump, but in the end, unfortunately some of his policies are not going to deliver as good results, in fact they may deliver the opposite, but Americans have no choice, Biden is the President, nothing can change now....... the only hope for Trump supporters now is the GOP winning 2022 midterms, and statistically, it will likely happen, so Senate might be claimed back by the GOP in 2022, so for now hoping that his corporate tax hike and policy regulations do not come in effect before that. VIOLENCE and clinging to the election results and trailing on won't do ANY good for America or for Canada or for the world, it makes America seem weak. Right now priority #1 should not be Democrats vs. Republicans, it should be the VIRUS..................this ****** virus - everyone of us want to wake up one day and stop having to worry about this nasty virus and lead normal or semi normal life without worrying of whether we will catch someone's snotty little virus. Most people spreading this shit are asymptomatic, they get to live, but there is unfortunately a % of those catching it that don't !!!!! and as long as BOTH parties are focusing on politics, nothing will get done. Right now Pelosi is getting multiple orgasms on a daily basis on the thought she is getting closer to impeaching Trump - ENOUGH IS ENOUGH !!!! the Democrats should focus on something else than this witch hunt, it's getting old and it's costing lives and delaying more important stuff.
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