You have a right to think this is a joke , but it is not

They will start WW3 very soon , no joke , 99% chance it will start in first half of 2020
They started killing , they are ready , and they are open about that
They MUST have it , debt in Planet Debt can not be repaid ever , for millions years war was solution

Dark Age to last 200-300 years

What can we do , NOTHIING
Can money , gold , investment or anything help us ? NO

Buy a food and build a bunker ? why , to survive a year more , nah
Enjoy now , last chance is now , very soon they will take what you have , including your soul

Me , I am 67 so I do not care , did have many good years in my life

Well then, by golly, you better start preparing quick:

Canning bananas - Healthy Canning

It is necessary that every generation should know the experience of world wars. This generation has not yet witnessed. So there is a chance for that to occur. That is the mystery behind fate which science cannot explain.What you have said cannot be abandoned as a joke. I agree to that point

Tasman1, sounds like you are listening to fake news again. We will always be in conflict around the world, mainly in the Middle East due to a mass brainwash and blood shed in the name of the Almighty, our creator, a God of PEACE and LOVE supposedly but unfortunately made into a dictator and murderer by some people on earth so they can justify slaying, murdering, killing and beheading. So you probably heard about the latest news in the new year right, so you went straight to CNN or another fake news channel to confirm that WW3 is going to happen.... Well sorry to disappoint you Tasman1, WW3 is very unlikely, at least not for a long time. No world leader wants an all out nuclear war, because another world war would basically wipe a large part of the planet, collapse ALL economy, and basically be hell on earth, it would probably take 50-100 years to recover from a new world war, so no leader wants that... Conflicts ? Yes there will be PLENTY. Wars ? You bet.........Nobody wants a world war, at least not China, not Russia, not America, not Canada, not Australia, and not Europe. It seems only the middle east want conflict and tear the f****** world apart and mass murder any human that is not aligned with their hate and crime laws.

So those living in fear of WW3 and doomsday you can continue to listen to fake news, fake astrologers, snake oil merchants and charlatans. I'm not saying there won't be a world war, but we are not even close yet, it's unlikely to happen anytime soon, we'll all be dead rotting in our grave eaten by the worms.

So people should enjoy whatever miserable life they have left to live and not think much about that.

YES a recession will happen
YES the market will collapse and world poverty will be a problem
YES you WILL lose 40%-50% of your money
YES crime will go up 80% worldwide
YES the world will get worse

but the prospect of a World War is still quite low.

So you are what now, almost 100 years old, you shouldn't worry about these things.

HaHaHaHaHahahahahaha!


Such a cheerful group here.

valerie wrote: HaHaHaHaHahahahahaha!


Such a cheerful group here.

Mhm - Revelations has already started, and starting with 2020 we will see more events and it will be more prominent, basically Revelations would be far worse than WW3, in fact the end outcome will be just bad, whether there is a WW3 or not, people are already killing one another as it is, listen to the REAL news, you will see more and more stories of own family members killing one another, fathers killing their son, daughter, wife before committing suicide, friends becoming enemies, family members killing one another, etc.......there is a very specific passage about this in Revelations that perfectly describes what is going on today, so you can keeping "laughing" Valerie, if you truly do not believe we are in Revelations, go back to your Bible People should stop reading tabloid magazines and listen to false prophets or charlatans selling doomsday predictions, what counts is what you see right before your eyes and original scripture.
The good news though is according to scripture, there will be 1000 years of peace on earth after the storm has passed, BUT after that basically things will head south again............. So let's just say that I don't think any of us here will be alive to witness this 1000 years of glory on earth, we are still Revelations, and who knows how long it will last, could be hundreds of years even...There's still LOT of things to be fulfilled first.

So yeah what a positive start of the new year - you wake up to find out the world is ont he brink of a world war,
that you might lose 50% of your savings due to a market crash from a prospect of war.
You learn that you and your allies will be walking targets even though you didn't launch the f*****g strikes
and you are innocent.......

So yeah it's hard to have a positive outlook - but I still do not think this will escalate into WW3.
On an election year ? ahahaha no chance, though I'm sure the far left RATS would want nothing better ......
Hopefully they can use their brain for once - I don't think ANY world leader would want to escalate into a world war,
there is way too much to lose now, with the technology today, a WW3 could wipe out most of our planet.
What I do think though is radicalism will grow exponentially, and the biggest concern should be from regular people without history becoming radicalised ......... That's what people should worry about more so than WW3 in my opinion, I mean there have been worst conflicts and each time you would see people proclaim the end of the world, doomsday and WW3...........Even though we are knee deep in Revelations I do not think we are anywhere close to the actual end of the world.........

Darkstar .................. you are 100% wrong , no , you are 1000% wrong

Western World ......................... we are one who wants war
Western World ..........................we are one who starts war
Western World ..........................we are one who think we are God now
Western World ..........................we are one who print money
Western World ..........................we are one who are bad
Western World ..........................we are one who rubish world , we make 90% polution and use 90% plastic and oil
Western world ........BAD .........poor world ........GOOD
Western World =ROBOTS ..........Poor World= humans

Western World = future poor world
China ,Russia = future rich world

U.S.A. know that and that is a reason U.S.A. will start WW3

Did you know ...................most declaration of WW2 is from England , France and rest of a European rich , not from Hitler , he just wanted back part of Germany that was lost [ stolen ] in WW1

tasman1 wrote: Darkstar .................. you are 100% wrong , no , you are 1000% wrong

Western World ......................... we are one who wants war
Western World ..........................we are one who starts war

lol - but we certainly don't want nor start world war 3, don't confuse wars and conflict with an actual world war 3.
NOBODY wants that, if you think that, then I am so happy you are not a politician, if you were, we'd all be dead, a long time ago, you would have pushed that red button any chance you had !

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Western World ..........................we are one who think we are God now
Western World ..........................we are one who print money
Western World ..........................we are one who are bad

True, true & true, but again, nobody wants an all out nuclear war, because it would be the last one

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Western World = future poor world
China ,Russia = future rich world

Right, that's true but remember at what cost !

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U.S.A. know that and that is a reason U.S.A. will start WW3

That's a bullshit ! It has North Korea, China, Russia, etc on its tail, nobody wants WW3, and certainly not Trump, and certainly not on election year - I think you are confusing things - or reading too many tabloid magazines or watching too much CNN. Once you snap back to reality you will see that YES there will be wars and conflict but not WW3, and certainly (hopefully NOT) nuclear or chemical.

Some conflicts are just politics and bluffing or just hot air, some are real, yeah the latest news in Iran is indeed a big shock and it might have some consequences, but NOT WW3, do you think Iran and other countries in the Middle East want a WW3 ? If you think so, you are delusional. BUT remember, regardless of the reason, who is right / who is wrong, people have that instinct to defend themselves. Yeah I guess Western world shares part of the blame, but 2 wrongs don't make a right.

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Did you[ know ...................most declaration of WW2 is from England , France and rest of a European rich , not from Hitler , he just wanted back part of Germany that was lost [ stolen ] in WW1

Ok now fast forward to 2020, NOW, with the technology we have now and how humans "de-volved" - if there another world war it would certainly be VERY different to the 1st and 2nd one, the implication, deaths, would be exponentially higher, it's likely most of the planet would be gone, and the recovery time would certainly be several x longer, SO with that in mind, no world leader would want a world war, WE MIGHT get very close to one, but in the end hopefully people snap out of it. Look at North Korea and the US, both sides know better not to escalate things, yet they had many opportunities to do so, but mostly escalate in "words", with China, Russia, etc, on their tails, they will certainly not SUPPORT whoever starts any war, so world leaders will likely want to keep things down to just war on words and inside conflicts / military actions etc, but an all out nuke war, hell no,.........

But here, if you want to read some propaganda
The Man Who Saw Tomorrow - Wikipedia

Apparently WW3 will last 27 years !

See who will start WW3, though you must admit, if those predictions were truly written BEFORE the fact they are so accurate in some spots, and see who "STARTS" things, if it is the U.S. or if it is a religion that wants to spread their influence and WIPE the world - this is what is happening today, SPOT ON........Then it is mentioned 1000 years of peace, though I think this was taken straight out of revelations, you see humans can twist and manipulate predictions all they want and confuse things, I think in this case, it's mostly Revelations twisted and made into WW3, it mentions it will last 27 years, though I think not a conventional world war as in 1 and 2, but more likely 27 years of evil, wars and conflicts (Revelations) as opposed to an all out nuclear war as we traditionally understand it. Interpretation is key.
So yeah no doubt that this is happening today, we are definitely in Revelations time, so by the predictions we are actually already in WW3

Oh come on, I am a pentecostal preacher's daughter, don't ya know?

You'll know when the end is near, everyone will be walking around with chips in their
heads and/or hand. Money will no longer be used. Credit cards will be a long since
thing of the past. Banks as we know it will dissolve. People will begin to disappear.
The world will be in havoc. A strong yet gentle seemingly kind and intelligent man
will come forth instigating peace for all, prosperity for all, and people will claim him
as the man to unite the world. One world order. It is after this stage people will
realize they have put a devil in sheep's clothing to rule the world. But it will be too
late. Your only option is to pray for a swift death or allow the mark of the beast
to consume your soul.

Something like that.

valerie wrote: You'll know when the end is near, everyone will be walking around with chips in their
heads and/or hand. Money will no longer be used. Credit cards will be a long since
thing of the past. Banks as we know it will dissolve. People will begin to disappear.
The world will be in havoc. A strong yet gentle seemingly kind and intelligent man
will come forth instigating peace for all, prosperity for all, and people will claim him
as the man to unite the world. One world order. It is after this stage people will
realize they have put a devil in sheep's clothing to rule the world. But it will be too
late. Your only option is to pray for a swift death or allow the mark of the beast
to consume your soul.

Something like that.

trust me Valerie , read some tasman1 prophecy here

You will know when bird fall and bear start talk , metal bird will rise but will not fly

Ash will rise ,eyes will fall and island will be born but walker will be no more , new world will start but we are not destined to see , long we will be gone

valerie wrote: You'll know when the end is near, everyone will be walking around with chips in their
heads and/or hand. Money will no longer be used. Credit cards will be a long since
thing of the past. Banks as we know it will dissolve. People will begin to disappear.
The world will be in havoc. A strong yet gentle seemingly kind and intelligent man
will come forth instigating peace for all, prosperity for all, and people will claim him
as the man to unite the world. One world order. It is after this stage people will
realize they have put a devil in sheep's clothing to rule the world. But it will be too
late. Your only option is to pray for a swift death or allow the mark of the beast
to consume your soul.

Something like that.

That's only PART of Revelations

As far as end times, there are many interesting passages that are aligned very accurately with what is going on today.....We are definitely in Revelations though nowhere near the END yet, but we smack in the middle of it.
I won't obviously quote EVERY passage, but there are specific passages mentioning nations against nations, people hating one another, even families against one another (and this part is so true because there is a LOT of news about mothers killing their children, fathers killing their family, brother killing sister, etc.) there is a specific passage on this, an interesting one is this:

2 Timothy 3:1-5
" But understand this, that in the last days there will come times of difficulty. For people will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not loving good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power. ..."

Luke 12:53
" They will be divided, father against son and son against father, mother against daughter and daughter against mother, mother-in-law against her daughter-in-law and daughter-in-law against mother-in-law.”

This is happening A LOT now. There was a time when no kid would dare talk down to their parents or disobey their teachers. NOW ? You have kids cussing their parents, cussing their teachers, beating them with baseball bats, shooting their teachers and other kids, their parents, etc. this passage is a perfect representation of what is going on now.

Matthew 24:7
" For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and there will be famines and earthquakes in various places."

Indeed, and there are other passages about floods too.......

I can go on and on and on and quote hundreds of other passages that are so in line with what is happening today.

AND despite all of that, God is loving and forgiving, luckily we do not have scriptures that condone beheading, judgment, slaying or what not, only God is the judge only God will judge ........ The *TRUE* end times is during final judgment, so we are so far FAR away from the end of the world and end times, we are progressing there but at a slow pace, there needs to be that 1000 years of peace on earth and then followed by the release of Satan.......
I personally like to study about different religions and respect them all, people can have their own beliefs BUT will not impose it on others at gun point or by sword or viciously killing, this is the difference. It's not right for ANY Religion to claim it is the ULTIMATE and CORRECT Religion and impose it upon others by the threat of violence, people should respect one another's beliefs, HOWEVER, there is a LIMIT and nobody should condone acts of terror in the name of God Almighty........People who live based on those ideologies should keep their messed up ways AT HOME and stop imposing it to others or making innocent victims !

As far as the man walking with chips in head etc, I think we are far from that Valerie, but maybe not ? Texts in the Bible can have multiple interpretations - nobody said that the chips would necessarily be implanted in you right ?

YET today we have contactless payment methods, chips on our credit and debit cards, more and more businesses are refusing cash and only accepting debit or credit. As far as MONEY will stop to exist, by that I think PAPER money or PHYSICAL money, as more and more people will use those contactless payment methods. In fact smart watches will be as common as smart phones are today, and smaller too, so to pay for stuff you would do nothing basically, because your smart watch would be your wallet, credit card, payment method, etc. So by those passages in the bible you'd think that someone will kidnap yo u and implant a chip in you, whereas maybe it simply means that technology will rise and that it will be enforced upon you, you will be forced to use those methods or you cannot function, and perhaps eventually put in prison or killed, though again that is open to interpretations.

Paper money still exists, BUT chips and contactless payment is popular now, so we are still far away from end times.

And people who say that Evil does not exists, that Satan does not exist, that's fine, just look around you and what is happening on this planet.....which btw is not flat

Darkstar 2 don´t even try to think that you can interpret the book of revelations according to present happenings as a sequence .
You probably did not read that there is stated that it will ""come as a thief in the night"". That means unexpected.

josealvesjr wrote: Darkstar 2 don´t even try to think that you can interpret the book of revelations according to present happenings as a sequence .
You probably did not read that there is stated that it will ""come as a thief in the night"". That means unexpected.

The Revelations are EASY to interpret because it already states WHAT will happen, it does not state when, but it is easy to determine that as to what is happening now around the world. The exact date and time of the second coming is unknown and not mentioned for not even the angels will know but the father alone, however, it is easy to determine we are in Revelations because of what is happening, we cannot however set a date on end times, judgment, etc, as stated in the scriptures, nobody knows the date but the Father.

You might be confusing 2 things here, the Revelations is a PROGRESSIVE chain of events, it's not just sudden, it is a progression, if you did actually read ALL of Revelations and compare against what is happening now you will see a link, what you CAN'T however know is when this will end, before the second coming and 1000 years of peace followed by the release of Satan, nobody knows the exact date, some say it could be in hundreds of years, some claim the end of the world will be in 3728 or in the 3000's It was meant for us not to kn ow the exact date of things, however, we were meant to be given advance WARNING - through Revelations, so yes, the warning signs are already here.

Floods, earthquakes, wars, hate, crime, evil, corruption, chip technology, contactless technology, fall in Church attendance, religious crimes, general unrest, etc........ Anybody who claims they can accurately predict the end of the world and set DATES and TIMES to events claiming they saw them, are basically charlatans, or deception of Satan himself, nobody knows any exact dates, but we shall know the signs.

The Book of Revelations is the most difficult book in the Bible because it
uses allegorical details. Lots of symbolism and defining what the writing
means is very difficult. One does not know to take the writing for it's word
and try to figure out what it could mean.

One can read the book of Revelations at any time in history and be able
to relate it to their own time period. There's always been sin, wars, hate,
brother against brother (Cain and Abel) prostitutes, greed, hunger, leaders,
money, earthquakes, and so on.

So even tho we believe the time is near, so did others hundreds if not
thousands of years ago.

Preparation for WW3 in progress


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Fear triggered by the epidemic has hit financial markets

Tokyo stocks fell while other Asian markets were closed

And is this a surprise to you ? The same happened previous times with outbreak, the effects on the market is nothing compared to the effect of a recession, sharp declines to market due to fear of a virus outbreak is normal, but it is usually followed by increases, as it creates an opportunity to buy low.

Things could be worse, remember, the markets could continue sharp declines and cancel out all the gains of 2019,
BUT the WHO is fueling fake news that the virus is under control (clearly it isn't) in order to appease the markets, but sooner or later investors will see right through the bullshit, it's only a matter of time now before the WHO is pressured into declaring an emergency, so that finally something more concrete can be done, because stalling tactics only work for a while but not forever.

I still believe in conspiracy though, no matter how you try to convince me that this started in China because of wildlife animals, I mean bats, snakes, whatever, how the hell did those animals get the disease in the first place, wouldn't it have contaminated humans too ? Unless someone shagged one of those wild animals (anything is possible in this sick world!), I mean could it be possible that this was engineered by a human in the first place and tested on animals first ?

Some mf needs to be held accountable for putting the whole world in danger, but problem is who is this mf....

Darkstar2, the coronavirus started in China. This is where the first cases were noted.

Like I said before, the problem with many many many areas of China is food contamination.
This is because they do not regulate as they should. People sell everything in open markets.
Raw fish, live fish, meats, etc etc etc and everyone picking up those foods, coughing on them,
sneezing on them, handling with filthy hands, unclean foods. That food is there all day and
no telling how many days on end until it is sold or totally rots. Flys, gnats, bats, all sorts of
insects landing on the open market foods. This results in a lot of bacteria, cross contamination,
and heaven forbid what else. Some of this stuff grows for many years in DNA of animals and
other creatures.

How do you think the Black Plague and all the viruses through out the centuries came to be?

Well, no one knows exactly positively 100% for sure the origination but they can pin point
much of the origin and how it spreads.

Just like the rats on the ships. Rats are nasty, live in nasty environments, DNA of all sorts
of infections, hence spreading the plague by way of getting into foods on the ships.

valerie wrote: Darkstar2, the coronavirus started in China. This is where the first cases were noted.

True, not saying otherwise, question is, what better place to plant a manufactured virus, because then it would be easy to blame hygiene, markets, etc. Ok assuming this is not man made and years of accumulation, it sure is an amazing coincidence that this happens this year and that all these events happen in proximity. I mean China and US finally seal a phase 1 deal, and Chinese New Year and then this happens, ok maybe coincidence so why aren't sanctions applied to such a country about their practices that allegedly place the world in danger then ? How come this cycle repeats over and over again ?

What's next ? a new super virus that will wipe population with no cure, no possible vaccine, etc ? They won't need WW3 or any weapons, as all it would take is a super virus to wipe the planet ....

Quote:People sell everything in open markets.
Raw fish, live fish, meats, etc etc etc and everyone picking up those foods, coughing on them,
sneezing on them, handling with filthy hands, unclean foods. That food is there all day and

In many countries also, and don't look far, if you have ever eaten at an all you can eat buffet you can see NASTINESS for yourself how people handle food. And BTW, maybe it's not the best time to go eat at an all you can eat buffet now - now that I go there anyway - I avoid restaurants now and eat at home, because in all you can eat buffets who knows what kind of food you are eating, maybe rattle snakes, rats, balls, bats, who knows, we have poor hygiene practices even here on our side of the planet, luckily no mass outbreaks as a result, just people getting sick through food poisoning.

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no telling how many days on end until it is sold or totally rots. Flys, gnats, bats, all sorts of
insects landing on the open market foods. This results in a lot of bacteria, cross contamination,
and heaven forbid what else. Some of this stuff grows for many years in DNA of animals and
other creatures.

That's true, and if you only saw half of what happens behind the scenes in most restaurants, you'd never want to eat outside your home ever again. As far as buying food from open markets, who in their right mind would buy meat from an open market. Food needs to be kept at a safe temperature, if left outside that safe window more than 2 hours bacteria growth accelerates, imagine the food kept all day at unsafe temperature. Question is, are these viruses the result of years of improper hygiene, something that has happened for so many years, or is this the result of engineering - I would not be surprised if there are labs hiding all those diseases and experiments, in fact it done, so imagine a breach in any of those labs. Not saying that the bad hygiene and contamination is not the cause, but one has to be open to the idea that some of these viruses and diseases are man made for the purpose of profits (big pharmas) and world population control.

Speaking of Revelations, it's on the news here more and more, some stores are already phasing out cash and not accepting it anymore, and there are already discussions about tiny implants that would include your "passport" basically, your full identity, wallet, etc, so yeah it's coming alright - and I believe in some of the scripture or prophecies, there were discussions of super viruses. The coronavirus would be the least of our worries, things are going to get far worse, as antibiotic resistance will become a major problem. But remember, we are still busy looking for life on OTHER planets, so we cannot possibly find cures for diseases, it's more important to look for aliens, yeah maybe aliens will help us find cures, yeah no doubt they will be happy to help us

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Just like the rats on the ships. Rats are nasty, live in nasty environments, DNA of all sorts
of infections, hence spreading the plague by way of getting into foods on the ships.

Well don't look far, they are not only on ships they are everywhere, in some cities, you have a ratio of 1:1 rats with humans, they can't possibly get rid of them all so they share living spaces with humans. New York among other states states has serious rats problems in their cities - They even take public transit too I'd saw rats are the spawn of evil, apparently they have very sharp teeth and can chomp you in half like a chainsaw.

Yeah I guess rats are the nastiest.

Apparently insects make for 40% of our planet - if somehow humans are wiped out of the planet, the only ones left surviving are the insects, dangerous, very large insects that were only seen in sci-fi movies and in your worst nightmares

I was referring to plagues. We have that part solved. For now anyway.

Oh yeah, the end is coming. I just hope I am already dead before the
xxxx hits the fan.