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#1041 by claxyclicks584 » Tue Aug 11, 2015 14:12

Darkstar2 wrote:

those questions of challenge do you see red egg, lavendar dinosaurs, flying serpants, etc, are always NO anyway :D

I wonder what would happen if when the question asks about a red egg, by a stroke of luck there actually is a red egg on the page. Would you have to answer "Yes" as if it's a real question, or "No" because it's a challenge question.
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#1042 by hamsu » Tue Aug 11, 2015 14:14

I got within today's bonuses a message from RF to claim my profile .. its already done a long ago .. anybody else?
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#1043 by hamsu » Tue Aug 11, 2015 14:17

helloworld111 wrote:
Darkstar2 wrote:

those questions of challenge do you see red egg, lavendar dinosaurs, flying serpants, etc, are always NO anyway :D

I wonder what would happen if when the question asks about a red egg, by a stroke of luck there actually is a red egg on the page. Would you have to answer "Yes" as if it's a real question, or "No" because it's a challenge question.

Especially when its on the page that is infinitely scroll :lol:
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#1044 by vorabhargav » Tue Aug 11, 2015 14:18

I knew it! Cookin I figured it out - that it might be those bot-check Qs.. either number or those Questions about dinosaur, humans, eggs, cyan nose, etc. ;)

It's alright! :D Don't feel discouraged.
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#1045 by cookin2 » Tue Aug 11, 2015 14:23

Darkstar2 wrote: The red egg you mean :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yes that was a challenge question, indeed that is a serious mistake, but you are human and humans make honest mistakes. I've done a mistake too before it was on math question. This results in instant internal rejection +1. Don't worry about it, it's going to be fine, unless you make too many mistakes like that, nothing will happen. I think you should contact them and let them know, keep the ticket on record as proof. but they won't be able to reverse the changes, depending on the mood of the person reading your ticket they might be able to remove the internal rejection, though I don't think they will.

and no you're not one of them.....there is a difference between honest mistake and purposely saying YES.

those questions of challenge do you see red egg, lavendar dinosaurs, flying serpants, etc,have only one possible answer, the math questions have 2 outcomes depending on question, and there is one skill question which has one outcome :D

At least that made me laugh :lol:

Thank you for the advice, I'm sure that I've made many errors, just never realized it at the time lol It's not the end of the world, I just felt really stupid. I'm still at -13 so that's a plus.

Darkstar2 wrote: Same ID, and you will notice a BIG change too, :D

I think that big change is what I stumbled on.
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#1046 by cookin2 » Tue Aug 11, 2015 14:26

vorabhargav wrote: I knew it! Cookin I figured it out - that it might be those bot-check Qs.. either number or those Questions about dinosaur, humans, eggs, cyan nose, etc. ;)

It's alright! :D Don't feel discouraged.

Thanks for the support, appreciate it! Just keep your eyes open - trust me on this :)
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#1047 by vorabhargav » Tue Aug 11, 2015 14:27

;)
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#1048 by Amaya02 » Tue Aug 11, 2015 14:31

hamsou73 wrote:
helloworld111 wrote:
Darkstar2 wrote:

those questions of challenge do you see red egg, lavendar dinosaurs, flying serpants, etc, are always NO anyway :D

I wonder what would happen if when the question asks about a red egg, by a stroke of luck there actually is a red egg on the page. Would you have to answer "Yes" as if it's a real question, or "No" because it's a challenge question.

Especially when its on the page that is infinitely scroll :lol:

:lol: we'll be like
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#1049 by Darkstar2 » Tue Aug 11, 2015 14:34

helloworld111 wrote:

I wonder what would happen if when the question asks about a red egg, by a stroke of luck there actually is a red egg on the page. Would you have to answer "Yes" as if it's a real question, or "No" because it's a challenge question.

That's very unlikely to happen. I don't know if the challenge questions are known in advance or random at the moment of generating the session, if it is pre-determined, then the author can cycle a new question. So if there is a test author who tests a new site (a company selling red eggs) then that is a big problem :lol:
I guess personally I would take a screenshot, copy the assignment link and I would answer YES, and immediately e-mail RF with the screenshot and details. But for now there is no red egg or dinosaurs or lavendar serpents in any of the tests and odds are there won't be any for a while lol.

hamsou73 wrote: I got within today's bonuses a message from RF to claim my profile .. its already done a long ago .. anybody else?

Have done some hits through another channel before ?

cookin2 wrote:
Thank you for the advice, I'm sure that I've made many errors, just never realized it at the time lol It's not the end of the world, I just felt really stupid. I'm still at -13 so that's a plus.

Hmm so maybe some of those -13's include those challenge questions you missed.

I think many new workers to RF will be confused with these, and report them as step issue or other. I think RF should have several well constructed training hits when you first begin, to initiate you fully to RF.
some sort of entrance exam type like CF is planning to deploy very soon.
It's good that you caught this soon enough whilst your account is still safe. Too many
errors on these questions you will get blocked, and if you get blocked for these, they are
usually irreversible.

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I think that big change is what I stumbled on.

No, skill/challenge/bot checks have always existed, nothing new there.
I remember back in the days they had a question like "Are you chewing gum?" LOL!
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#1050 by Darkstar2 » Tue Aug 11, 2015 14:37

vorabhargav wrote: Darkstar, an article for you here -(link removed) ]My Experience as an Amazon Mechanical Turk (MTurk) Worker | Psychology Today

No PM option so sorry had to share here. Since this is OT do let me know when you stumble upon it.

This this is very much O/T to this thread, I will not elaborate, but I read the article and it is VERY interesting, well worth reading. Gives a lot of insight - This deserves a topic of its own to discuss there is so much to say about it.
CrowdSourcing has a really dark side, the good and the ugly happens both sides, workers and also authors who write the tasks. Nice read. Nobody will get rich working on mTurk.
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#1051 by vorabhargav » Tue Aug 11, 2015 14:42

I know! Was so eager to tell you that. :)
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#1052 by eMeir » Tue Aug 11, 2015 14:42

There is no work currently available in this task. :(
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#1053 by cookin2 » Tue Aug 11, 2015 14:46

I meant that I'm sure (knowing me) that I've made mistakes before. I didn't mean that I'd made mistakes and then realized it shortly thereafter.

So the big change wasn't the unfamiliar question that I stumbled on. So now I think that maybe it wasn't a bot check :lol:

If there was a new bot question, someone else would have seen it by now.

I'm not very computer literate, I know, what a shocker - but I guess most people know how to do a "hard refresh" and I've never heard of it before? I learn new stuff everyday!
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#1054 by hamsu » Tue Aug 11, 2015 14:53

Darkstar2 wrote:
hamsou73 wrote: I got within today's bonuses a message from RF to claim my profile .. its already done a long ago .. anybody else?

Have done some hits through another channel before ?

Never .. Only one channel since January 2015 .. anyway I emailed them to know what it was :D

My advice to @cookin2

Be more careful when answering math/challenge questions because this is what identify you as a human not a bot.
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#1055 by Darkstar2 » Tue Aug 11, 2015 15:11

hamsou73 wrote:
Darkstar2 wrote:
hamsou73 wrote: I got within today's bonuses a message from RF to claim my profile .. its already done a long ago .. anybody else?

Have done some hits through another channel before ?

Never .. Only one channel since January 2015 .. anyway I emailed them to know what it was :D

My advice to @cookin2

Be more careful when answering math/challenge questions because this is what identify you as a human not a bot.

Be prepared to wait a long time for an answer from RF.

BTW, try comparing both profile links you got, the old one and the new one,
do they match or are they different ? If you successfully claimed your profile
the first time AND can log in in your portal, then everything is fine.
It was probably an error on their part :D Anyhow you'll know for sure in
few months from now :lol:
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#1056 by cookin2 » Tue Aug 11, 2015 15:12

hamsou73 wrote: My advice to @cookin2

Be more careful when answering math/challenge questions because this is what identify you as a human not a bot.

Thank you, my family member :D I certainly will be more careful in the future!
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#1057 by hamsu » Tue Aug 11, 2015 15:12

Yes everything is fine .. my portal is fine ..
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#1058 by Darkstar2 » Tue Aug 11, 2015 15:15

vorabhargav wrote: I know! Was so eager to tell you that. :) Just a mini request....edit your previous reply. ;)

I removed the link. But I will frame this article on my wall for safe keeping !

Basically it is a requester who decided to put himself in our shoes as worker, and realised all the crap workers go through, unfair tasks, low wages, etc, and made him look at things in a new light. I wish task authors did the same on CF and put themselves in our shoes. that was a very respectful thing this author did. Perhaps RF should do the same and put themselves in our shoes and work on actual hits lol.

Thanks for posting this - if I could rate that article I would rate it a 5 star. I would like
to send that article link to CF's CEO and managers and RF's founders :D
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#1059 by Darkstar2 » Tue Aug 11, 2015 15:21

hamsou73 wrote: Yes everything is fine .. my portal is fine ..

There is an expression that says, if it ain't broke don't fix it :D
Was probably sent in error, if you do get an answer from RF please
let us know.

To be honest, I wish they had never done this portal, it is so poor looking,
I think it's something that took them 2 minutes to do :D I really miss
the turk dashboard, at least you know how much money you are owed, pending,
how many hits you completed, see screenshots, compare your answers,
etc.

They removed rejections but they could have kept the turk dashboard.
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#1060 by Smyrnaa35 » Tue Aug 11, 2015 15:28

hamsou73 wrote: I got within today's bonuses a message from RF to claim my profile .. its already done a long ago .. anybody else?

Yeah same here each of them has portal link to claim my account but with different ref numbers.
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