dsbe wrote:

scott2178 wrote:

question... what countrys where these refs from? tier1?

All countries. That didn't matter as much because much of the income was PTC and there were always plenty of ads on the CS boards.

I actually preferred to get referrals from developing countries because I knew that income meant so much more to them. Also, developing country clickers tended to stick longer because they needed that income

and yes, before anyone asks, only a small percentage were active but that is the nature of the industry. There are your workers and those that don't want to do anything. There are also your investors like me who are more than willing to spend money to bring in affiliates. These are the people most harmed by the changes at CS as if these people did nothing or did not earn their share of the income from the business. But the promoters are what made this company big

That's an excellent point.

zegon wrote:

valerie wrote: I wouldn't bother to click the banner if it said don't click me because I would
know that it was wanting clicked.

Wouldn't you be a little curious then ?

And possibly regret it a little later , if you didn't click on that banner.

Think about it latter and wonder what was behind the banner.

No not at all. Probably because it is an old outdated ploy.

I wouldn't bother to click the banner if it said don't click me because I would
know that it was wanting clicked.

In regards to CS, most my referrals came by way of my own downline club.
It grew to around 40,000 thru the 8 levels (which was really 7 levels)

You have to be honest.

When I created web pages, I liked to directly speak to my audience for that page.

'Could you use an extra $50 to $300 per month?
I could and I do. You can too. Covers my gasoline
and some times covers my groceries and great for
holiday gifts not to mention covering those monthly
bills. Not only will I give you the information, I will
teach you exactly how I do it so you can easily do it too.
Enter your contact info below and you'll receive an
immediate reply so we can get started right away.'

Something like that. Honest, plain, simple. In doing so, you get people that really
want to earn some extra money and know they are going to be taught how to do it.
In this day and age, almost everyone can use some extra cash every month.

Also targeting is good such as this time of year is back to school time. Money has
to be spend on children new school clothes and supplies. So you target those parents
about working online for extra cash to purchase the children school supplies, etc.

Like you said, if you lie and exaggerate, you'll end up with people that get mad at
you and also people that will not do anything but leave.

Oh that's a great one! 'You haven't lost all your senses!' You can do a lot with that one.

Hahahahahaha!

Hahahahahaha ! I liked that 'high as a kite' in regards to flashing colors, loud music.
Someone from the old LSD days. The image I got in my head when I read that was
an old hippy spaced out with a pipe hanging out of his mouth staring at a psychedelic
web page with loud music playing 'leaving on a jet plane'.

I don't even think it has to be excellent ad copy.

I tested my theory once by going in the opposite direction. I did that with a website
and also on eBay. The bottom line is to attract their attention and to give them what
they are looking for. I created an absolutely stupid ugliest web page ever, and people
were opting in like mad.

Dan, I am not saying anything you do to advertise, money or not, is not worth it.
That is not what I am saying at all.

What I am saying is, if you spend money to advertise the affiliate link, at some
point you will lose. The exception may be if you still have a way to send them
to your own website.

For example, lets say you achieve 1000 members to ySense by promoting your
ySense affiliate link. And lets even go so far to say they are ALL active and ALL
making you $1,000 a month. BUT what if you had advertised your own website
and 1000 joined ySense and 300 joined SwagBucks and 2,000 opt in for your
emails, and so on. THIS is what I am trying to get across. They become YOUR
customers.

No, I don't always read your posts/topics. Not much happening on the forum today or I
should say another moderator/moderators swept the forums before me.

You don't see what moderators see. We have to approve or disapprove many topics
daily. Some days more so than other days. It's been very hectic since the program
was sold.

I try to read every new post but it is impossible to do so, especially during this time.
If there are complaints, I have to read the complaint and post.

I don't think they would send an email to the entire database.

I may be wrong but usually programs such as this, do not send an email due to
the enormous amount of members.

The problem with emailing the entire database is clogging. It clogs up the servers
and it clogs up the internet highway, for several days.

That's what I am saying. Advertise your own site and on your own site
you relay whatever it is you are promoting or you request their contact
info so you can send them the info.

Most 'free' blogs is not going to allow the customer to advertise anything.
That's why the blog is free, so they can advertise their own stuff like
google Adwords.

I don't appreciate being called a liar. I am mighty sure by now, everyone that
has been here any length of time, knows how you are, Rod. You were banned
from the forum once already and now that ySense is here, you are working on
it again.

Most of what you post here, I don't even bother to read. However, your post
had complaints so I had to read it. It was accurate complaints.

You can cry. You can stomp your feet. You can email the admins. I really
don't care what you do.

I don't know if I read all his topic or the entire thread but I did read yours.

I don't think it depends.

When you spend money to advertise something other than what is yours,
you are going to lose at some point.

Think about it.

Does Coke Cola send people to buy Pepsi?

The saying 'it takes money to make money' is a general term that I relate
primarily to investing money into your own site/your own program.

You purchase hosting. You put up a website or blog. You utilize a method
of contact. You relate to like minded people and share what you can do
for them. That's THE money and THE work.

What do you think affiliate marketing is? If you're wise, you have at least
one or more ways to attract people to YOU or what YOU have to offer and
let them know what YOU can do for them.

Most online programs do not allow messaging and contact. Even so, some
that do, do not allow discussions other than their program.

When you simply spend money on advertising someone else's site, you are
giving away your own potential customer base.

Here's another saying for you 'Outta sight Outta mind'.

I never used LR, I don't think.

I did use STP. I still have an old STP card.

Diszeeyos wrote: Kiedy będą wreszcie inne metody płatności? Np. payooner, skrill ,tango card?

No one knows an exact date for sure. But they did say they will implement them.

Na pewno nikt nie zna dokładnej daty. Ale powiedzieli, że je wdrożą.

Well this might make someone mad but I am just telling you the truth and
the truth is, you never spend money to advertise a website unless you own
it and have a follow up method/autoresponder for the visitors to opt into.