You should know Darkstar2 that everyone qualifies and not always based on exact
but on number. Some tests such as home testing or direct phone surveys, etc, are
usually very limited. So even tho you filled the form they requested, it not always
set in stone.

Eh, It wasn't the PTC part of it that PayPal decided to cancel.

He/She is referring to the 'sticky ads' Jim started. It seems they were actually
much less earnings and he didn't really make money off those cause they were
cheap. I told him the idea stunk. haha! More or less is what I said and I think
he discussed it with all mods at the time. Anyway, he did it and I guess it worked
for his intentions.

I don't know Jim, never met him in person, never spoke with him on the phone.
So my guess to why he sold the site, is exactly what he said and then some....

You some times reach a point in life when some things are more important to you
than other things. If you become financially secure and have responsibilities, you
may find reducing the plate will make your life longer and happier. Jim is married,
has children and grand children, has enjoyable offline business, I suppose in his
50's of age, and he didn't need to keep CS any more especially if offered a nice
sum for it. I'm not sure why there are a few focusing on why Jim sold because
it truly doesn't matter to anyone why he did but himself.

I knew some day CS would be gone. I would think everyone would know that.
Nothing lasts forever except Coke Cola and Pepsi.

Jim never said he couldn't make money.

I'll stick my 2 cents worth in here.

Affiliate marketing is all about the affiliate promoting the store. If the affiliate is
not promoting the store, the affiliate is not an affiliate, he is a customer.

Example:

Darkstar2 = customer (as in only works the site for direct earnings)
dsbe= affiliate (as in only promotes the site for indirect earnings)
Valerie= affiliate customer (as in promotes the site and works the site for direct and indirect earnings)

Is there anything wrong with any of those? No not at all.

From major corporations such as Pepsi on down to the local corner shoe store, it is
both the store and the affiliate that builds the store.

As I have always stated, there is no such thing as saturation unless you are referring
to a wet towel. People are born every day.....LOTS of them. People grow every day.
People lose their jobs every day. People become disabled every day. People become
a single parent every day. People spend money every day. People retire every day.

Every day, people are searching online for a way to make money. Many of these people
experience a life change simply by making $100 a month online. LIFE CHANGING.

The store must do it's job well. It must sell products at a fair competitive price and
it must sell what people want. If it can do that, word of mouth will spread and online
affiliate marketers help spread the word. IF a store does not do it's job well, the
opposite holds true also.

The market is certainly not saturated. If marketing became saturated, why is Pepse
advertising? Why does Macy's send emails every day?

dsbe is not being a smarty pants but IS in fact making my point. These online programs
you never know how long they will last or what they will do. No matter how great they
are, you don't have a crystal ball. No one likes to talk death but what if Jim had died
several years ago? Perhaps CS would have been gone quickly with 0 program sitting
here. As I stated earlier you ALWAYS lose when you promote someone else's program.
ALWAYS. You may profit, you may feel like you have won, but in reality, you could
have done better by promoting yourself and your own site.

If you only send people to someone else site, they are in someone else's database,
not yours. When the site goes POOF, you are back to scratch.

Don't misunderstand me. There is nothing wrong with advertising someone else site
it that is what you want to do. To each their own. I advertised CS but I primarily
used my own sites, my own databases, my own programs that cost me nothing to do so.
In addition I did use many free programs such as traffic exchanges and the like where
I always had free credits.

It's good to use some profits for advertising. Nothing wrong with that at all. My advice
has always been to make sure you pocket at least half of it. That way if things do go
south, you still profited well in the end.

I don't think GPT is over and I don't see it ending any time soon. Things may change.
There may be good days and bad days. It's always been that way and I think it will
continue to be that way for some time.

tasman1 wrote: Cool , learned a lot about this subject , I am now expert in this matter

Where I can sell all that data and how much can ask for it

ahahahahahahahahahaaaaaa

Last I heard from them I was in a coma.

dsbe wrote:

scott2178 wrote:

question... what countrys where these refs from? tier1?

All countries. That didn't matter as much because much of the income was PTC and there were always plenty of ads on the CS boards.

I actually preferred to get referrals from developing countries because I knew that income meant so much more to them. Also, developing country clickers tended to stick longer because they needed that income

and yes, before anyone asks, only a small percentage were active but that is the nature of the industry. There are your workers and those that don't want to do anything. There are also your investors like me who are more than willing to spend money to bring in affiliates. These are the people most harmed by the changes at CS as if these people did nothing or did not earn their share of the income from the business. But the promoters are what made this company big

That's an excellent point.

zegon wrote:

valerie wrote: I wouldn't bother to click the banner if it said don't click me because I would
know that it was wanting clicked.

Wouldn't you be a little curious then ?

And possibly regret it a little later , if you didn't click on that banner.

Think about it latter and wonder what was behind the banner.

No not at all. Probably because it is an old outdated ploy.

I wouldn't bother to click the banner if it said don't click me because I would
know that it was wanting clicked.

In regards to CS, most my referrals came by way of my own downline club.
It grew to around 40,000 thru the 8 levels (which was really 7 levels)

You have to be honest.

When I created web pages, I liked to directly speak to my audience for that page.

'Could you use an extra $50 to $300 per month?
I could and I do. You can too. Covers my gasoline
and some times covers my groceries and great for
holiday gifts not to mention covering those monthly
bills. Not only will I give you the information, I will
teach you exactly how I do it so you can easily do it too.
Enter your contact info below and you'll receive an
immediate reply so we can get started right away.'

Something like that. Honest, plain, simple. In doing so, you get people that really
want to earn some extra money and know they are going to be taught how to do it.
In this day and age, almost everyone can use some extra cash every month.

Also targeting is good such as this time of year is back to school time. Money has
to be spend on children new school clothes and supplies. So you target those parents
about working online for extra cash to purchase the children school supplies, etc.

Like you said, if you lie and exaggerate, you'll end up with people that get mad at
you and also people that will not do anything but leave.

Oh that's a great one! 'You haven't lost all your senses!' You can do a lot with that one.

Hahahahahaha!

Hahahahahaha ! I liked that 'high as a kite' in regards to flashing colors, loud music.
Someone from the old LSD days. The image I got in my head when I read that was
an old hippy spaced out with a pipe hanging out of his mouth staring at a psychedelic
web page with loud music playing 'leaving on a jet plane'.

I don't even think it has to be excellent ad copy.

I tested my theory once by going in the opposite direction. I did that with a website
and also on eBay. The bottom line is to attract their attention and to give them what
they are looking for. I created an absolutely stupid ugliest web page ever, and people
were opting in like mad.

Dan, I am not saying anything you do to advertise, money or not, is not worth it.
That is not what I am saying at all.

What I am saying is, if you spend money to advertise the affiliate link, at some
point you will lose. The exception may be if you still have a way to send them
to your own website.

For example, lets say you achieve 1000 members to ySense by promoting your
ySense affiliate link. And lets even go so far to say they are ALL active and ALL
making you $1,000 a month. BUT what if you had advertised your own website
and 1000 joined ySense and 300 joined SwagBucks and 2,000 opt in for your
emails, and so on. THIS is what I am trying to get across. They become YOUR
customers.

No, I don't always read your posts/topics. Not much happening on the forum today or I
should say another moderator/moderators swept the forums before me.

You don't see what moderators see. We have to approve or disapprove many topics
daily. Some days more so than other days. It's been very hectic since the program
was sold.

I try to read every new post but it is impossible to do so, especially during this time.
If there are complaints, I have to read the complaint and post.

I don't think they would send an email to the entire database.

I may be wrong but usually programs such as this, do not send an email due to
the enormous amount of members.

The problem with emailing the entire database is clogging. It clogs up the servers
and it clogs up the internet highway, for several days.