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God does and does not intervene in our lives.

You're missing the important point. God can do what He wants to do. His reasons
are beyond our pitiful knowledge.

Sin reigns.

ALL people are sinful. No matter how sin free anyone professes to be, they are
sinful.

Sin is sin. One sin is no greater than another.

You said 'why should innocent die?'. In our world, we have the word 'innocent'
just like we have the word 'nothing' but in reality, these words are just that,
words. There is ALWAYS something and there is NEVER innocence.

Everyone comes short to the glory of God. Everyone. This is why God sent His
son to die on the cross for us. Jesus shed His blood so that everyone that believes
in Him will have ever lasting life.

'Let anyone without sin, cast the first stone'. Everyone is sinful.

'Good' people will go to hell. There are a lot of good people that do not believe in Him.
And just because you are good, does not mean you are free of sin. The word 'good'
is another one of those words we humans use to define bad.

No, punishment is not reserved. Heaven and Hell is.

Sin caused the virus. If the devil did not reign Adam and Eve would probably still
be enjoying the garden today and we would probably not exist. So whether the
virus came from a rat, a bat, a bug, a dung, it is because sin exists in the world.
There is no way that I personally can say where the virus came from. However,
from what science has relayed, I can assume it came from a particular species of
bat that lives in that area of China. The bat has carried that organism for no
telling how many hundreds or thousands of years. The organism has evolved
over that time to a stage that was released into the world. Through exactly
what means it was released, I don't think anyone knows. Maybe someone ate
the bat and the organism was released to that person which then spread. Or
maybe the organism was released by someone handling the bat either dead or
alive. Or maybe someone was bit by the bat.

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It was a man. I watched the news on tv tonight and it was a 44 year old man
with a wife and three young children. He was on his deathbed and everyone
knew he was going to die but they treated him with the drug and he survived.

PS. They had the blue squares near the cashier lanes that said stay 6 feet apart
and people were following the distancing.

At Walmart today. Many of the shelves were replenished. Not too many people out. It
was a rainy morning and altho there was people there, it was far from swarming.

It looked to be a little low on milk but still plenty. The box cereal isle was very full. There
was a few bags of self rising flour and self rising cornmeal and my sister and I both grabbed
one of each. There was yeast packets. I had been trying to find yeast and there it was.
So I was glad to get the yeast. I looked over at the meat counters and from what I could
see, it looked to be low on meat but still variety there. I saw a lot of hams. There was
lots of bread. Still, a lot of the frozen foods were low to null. Few pizza's, few frozen
dinners, etc. Oh, and the only toilet paper they had were those little Walmart brand
of small 4 roll packages.

I was the only one at their pharmacy at that moment. I thought it a bit ironic because
after I got home and looked at my drugs, one big bottle was my arthritis medicine.

Actually, the 'malaria' drug can help in severe cases. That is why they are going to use it.
It's a strong aid to prevent death with this virus.

Well, this is my opinion and it's worth a whole lot to me....

God helps those that CAN'T help themselves. No where in the Bible does it say that
God only helps those that help themselves. That's a false line that someone some
where came up with.

God can do anything and God can do everything. If you believe what it says in the
Bible, then you know the story of Moses, you know the story of Noah, you know
the numerous interventions of God and the plagues God sent upon Egypt.

God says 'revenge is mine'. God is to be loved and feared. He is the father. So
just as your father that you love, you may punish you when you do something
wrong, our Father in Heaven can punish us, if He so chooses to do so.

Who put the organism in the bat thousands of years ago that one day would be
released upon earth in people as the coronavirus? Did free will do that? Did
evolution do that? Did God do that? Did the devil do that? Perhaps more
importantly is who allowed the organism to be released?

Never under estimate God. God can punish His children and God has punished
His children time and time again.

I do believe we'll see a vaccine for this awful virus, this year. I do hope so.
I don't know that God put the virus upon us. I don't know that God will save
us from it. I am sure of one thing, God can do whatever He wants. That's
why He is God.

Well, I think Trump will be re-elected.

In regards to what he said, the malaria drugs have helped and they are now
making millions of the anecdote.

The people in the USA has no ill will against the Chinese people. Overall, we
don't. What we want is our manufacturing halted in China and other countries
too. We want our jobs brought back home. We realize trade is good but it
has gone way beyond that as many in the USA has lost jobs due to factory
shut downs moving to China for cheap labor.

Eh, life is hard for everyone. Life is not easy. It may seemingly be better
for the wealthy but they have problems too. Life is short and you can't take
money and possessions with you when you're dead.

I pray every night before I go to bed. My prayer always goes something like this:

Dear Jesus, it's me again. I know you're very busy but once more I ask you to
keep children bellies full and not allow any child to go hungry. Please prevent
physical abuse of children and animals. Would you ask the father to bring
clean, disease free water to all across the world. I ask that you keep my children,
grand children, great grandchildren safe, happy, with long healthy lives and to
believe in you and the father. Just one more thing tonight, would you please
send a vaccine quickly to prevent the coronavirus. Amen.

Yes I think at this stage something may be better than nothing.

He's offering 15 day free online meditating training class.

I can't recall his name. Something like 'Chopin'.

Anyone know?

Yes I hope that will work to prevent deaths, at the very least.

FDA approves emergency use of malaria pill for COVID-19 treatment

The Food and Drug Administration on Sunday approved the anecdotally promising malaria drug for emergency use to treat hospitalized patients for COVID-19.

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) said in a statement it has accepted 30 million doses of hydroxychloroquine sulfate donated by Sandoz, the Novartis (NVS) generics and biosimilars division, and one million doses of chloroquine phosphate donated by Bayer Pharmaceuticals (BAYRY).

The drug is currently being tested in New York hospitals.


On March 20, Novartis said it, “intends to donate up to 130 million 200-mg doses by the end of May, including its current stock of 50 million 200-mg doses. The company is also exploring further scaling of capacity to increase supply and is committed to working with manufacturers around the world to meet global demand. Novartis’ Sandoz division currently only holds a registration for hydroxychloroquine in the U.S., and will pursue appropriate regulatory authorizations from the U.S. FDA and the European Medicines Agency.”

On March 19, Bayer announced it would donate 3 million doses.

In a statement, HHS reiterated the drug still only has anecdotal evidence to support its efficacy.

tasman1 wrote:

chandramohanancc wrote: This is kaliyug as to Indian mythology Everything even God will be against our wishes. There is another 3000years for this era to be completed .This era is the worst and last era for humans and all these are ndicated in the holy books and are coming true without any mistakes .I feel proud and amazed of the old generation who have exactly compiled these facts

OK but who is protecting super rich and pewerfull politicians , God or Vaccine ???????

As we know Queen , her husband and many more are very old , born before Jesus Crist , and they can not die from corona ?????????
Tom Hanks , his wife and many more did have coronavirus and they did survive as I was told , was 100% sure they WILL survive
How did I know ?????? Maybe they did have vaccine before corona come to us ????

Many of the deaths are due to underlying conditions.

You might be 80 years old, very healthy, get corona virus, and live.
You might be 80 years old with heart problems, lung problems, diabetic, get corona and die.

Wealthy people that are presidents, queen, etc, have great health care through their lives.
Often they have in house private doctor that takes their vitals every day.

Do you know how old the queen of England is? She is 93 years old. How has she lived so long?
Well, I'd say a lot has to do with the health care she has received all of her life. Will she survive
the coronavirus? I don't know but I'd say even tho she is 93, if she is in good health, she may
very well live through it.

Yes, the coke and cookies will probably kill me before the virus does.

Ok, now let me get this straight....

First of all, I am told the virus is nothing more than a cold flu

Then I am told not to wear masks

I am told to stay 6 feet from others

Then I am told to stay in my house

After that I am told they are running low on med supplies

Before that, I am told not to hoard toilet paper

Then I am told people are sneezing and coughing on food for pranks

Then I am told health professionals will be choosing who lives and who dies

Then I am told, I am old so I might as well strangle myself so young can live

After that I am told old people should go to work and young stay home

Then I am told young should go to work and old stay home

Now you are telling me since there is a 2009 movie with the title 2012 and
that the Chinese have arks, that I am done for no matter what.

So now I am back to strangling myself but I tell you this, I am going to use
ALL my toilet paper before I go any where!!!

They do not kill them.

Without resources to help everyone, they have to make very tough decisions.