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I got my first payment :) » Post #2

Thu Jan 26, 2012 22:08 in Payment Proofs

Congrats! :P

Buying/Renting Referrals » Post #15

Thu Jan 26, 2012 15:24 in General Talk

Well don't be mad at me Kreacher. I have enjoyed our little discussion here. :P

Focusing on Ads. » Post #3

Thu Jan 26, 2012 15:23 in General Talk

What do you mean, are you looking for that update?

It just means the timer will stop if you move around off that window.
That may result in opening another tab or even moving around on your desktop, it will stop the counter.

Buying/Renting Referrals » Post #13

Thu Jan 26, 2012 14:50 in General Talk


There really is a big difference in the 'invest' and the 'op'. There is a difference.

When you invest, you are expecting some sort of gain. Since we are talking about
bux programs in general, we can say that if you invest $20 for referrals, you are
expecting a monetary cash gain. Wouldn't you agree with that?

Now let's look at CS. It is not an investment. Because you are not
investing in anything. You're not buying nor renting referrals expecting a return
on your investment. Instead, you're paying $17 per year to be an affiliate period.
This is called an opportunity. The opportunity to make money. The opportunity
to build an 8 level organization. The opportunity to make stipends from those
you sponsor and/or those in your 8 levels. The opportunity to work to view
ads and make money.

Because you are not investing, expecting high returns. You have the opportunity
to refer advertisers, to refer standard affiliates and premium affiliates. You earn
a stipend according to the activity you produce and if you are a premium member
you may be leveraging by building an 8 level organization. This IS an opportunity.

The big difference between the two is really that service of renting/selling referrals.
There is no downline structure per se. There is no focus on work to gain. It's about
as close to a ponzi scheme as it gets. Do nothing, buy referrals/rent referrals, make

Some of the larger bux programs out there, if they were located within the USA and
pulling in millions, you can believe the SEC would have already got involved.

Think of the surf for cash programs, as an example. Those were not opportunities.
Those were investment programs. Well ok, what was their product? It was
advertising. The SEC walked in and shut them down.

Bux programs run the same length as the paid to surfs.
They are not opportunities because they are not legally legit according
to the legal term.

It's not semantics. It's the difference between a legal and ethics and illegal and

Buying/Renting Referrals » Post #11

Thu Jan 26, 2012 13:46 in General Talk

I don't know. I don't pay to advertise CS.

But no, there is no investment at CS. I suppose some might call a $17 yearly affiliate fee an investment but in
reality it is not. It's an opportunity. Whereas bux programs are not an opportunity, they are investment programs...
which tie right in with HYIP's, DOUBLERS, FAST CYCLERS, that sort of thing.

Blood Type - What does yours mean? » Post #13

Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:00 in General Talk

That is funny. You found out your blood type just two days before I posted this topic. :mrgreen:

Buying/Renting Referrals » Post #9

Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:56 in General Talk

I disagree with you on your statement that at the base, all PTC's are the same.

There's a very big difference.

For starters, a PTC originated out of the focus of advertising. That is the base.
If there is no advertising, there is no base and therefore it is not a real's a game of investment.

From the start of CS, the base has always been the advertiser and it still is.
There is no selling of bots or using bots or crap leads in any way whatsoever.

Furthermore, over time, CS has implemented more for the advertiser. More affordable options, more
targeting, etc.

The majority of Bux programs and understand I am not talking about Neobux, has No geotargeting.
About the most you have for targeting your ad is paid member or free members or both.

Another big issue with bots, is the fakeness of the real membership base.

If you claim you have 1 million members but half of them are bots, how many members do you really have?
Therefore, advertisers are often fooled at the so called bux and/or ptc programs into believing their are a higher
membership number than what there really is.

This topic is not about risky business per se. It's up to each individual to do whatever he chooses
to do. This topic is about the WHY CS does not rent or sell referrals. Every so often, someone posts in
these forums 'Where do i buy the referrals?' or 'Will you sell referrals?'. CS is not an investment program.
It really isn't. NeoBux and most the bux programs out there, ARE investment programs.

You also say you are renting referrals at Neobux. So you are investing in Neobux. Whether you are
spending money out of your own pocket or using what you earn to rent the referrals, it is still a risky

There is no investment at CS. There is an opportunity at CS and that is the opportunity to upgrade
to an affiliate premium level for $17 per year (Feb) and thereby earn on affiliate sales down 8 levels,
not just 1.

So if you compare CS with Neobux, there is no comparison.

CS = affiliate program
NB = investment program

proposal » Post #3

Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:38 in General Talk


Blood Type - What does yours mean? » Post #11

Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:29 in General Talk

Oh no skynet84, we're like two peas on a pod, like two green beans in a soup, like two strangers in the night,
like two moons rising, like two..... :lol:

My payment » Post #2

Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:25 in Payment Proofs

Congrats! :P

WOW! Ron Johnson joins JCP as ceo » Post #1

Thu Jan 26, 2012 09:29 in General Talk

Ron Johnson, over at Apple, is now taking the ceo position at JCP beginning Feb. 1st.

JCP shoppers are excited.

Beginning Feb. 1st, a new marketing strategy will be implemented at JCP.
Instead of all these constant sales and coupons that are driving people nuts,
they will have monthly long values, and more.

Ron talks about the 'town square' implementation at JCP. He says that it's
going to change the way people truly shop online.

It really sounds very interesting. And something to keep an eye on in regards
to his marketing strategies and how the stock plays out.

PS. JCP is JC Penneys department store

win clixgrid at last » Post #2

Thu Jan 26, 2012 08:54 in Success Stories

Congrats on your winnings! :P

ClixGrid » Post #16

Thu Jan 26, 2012 08:53 in General Talk

No it's not. It's random.

Buying/Renting Referrals » Post #7

Thu Jan 26, 2012 07:55 in General Talk

I tell you what it reminds me of. Crap Leads. That's what I use to call them in the old days. :lol:

Crap Leads come from bingo and lotto sites.

The way that works is some bingo and lotto sites are in business as crap lead sales.
That's the way they make their money.

How it works is, before you can play their free bingo or play their free lotto, you have
to visit one to three sites first.

Advertisers pay the bingo and lotto sites for the crap leads.

I know because I have did it. There is several ways this can be done.

One way is, the person visiting the bingo/lottery site, enrolls so he can play, then he
visits the site/sites before he can play, then he may sign up at the sites he visits but
he may not. In either case, he is not interested, he just wants to to try his luck at
bingo or the lotto. Since he entered his info, the guy that purchased, gets his email

The time that I purchased, they would roll into my email account, one by one. I had
their email address, name, ip address. I could then email them directly or put them
in an autoresponder. Even back then, most were too smart to give their real or main
email address. They were crap leads because you got nothing from them but a hole
in your pocket.

Another is 'Junk Newsletter Leads'. I guess there is companies that still sell them.
There was a big one back then that was for newsletter and ezine publishers. They
had a huge site and you could list your newsletter. You could also purchase leads.
I remember trying to get a refund because they were all junk.

All you got to do is import. IMPORT IMPORT IMPORT. Ya head over to a crap leads
program or any number of the gazillion junk leads programs. Buy yourself a million
crap leads pack. Import them into your program. Then sell them to your unsuspecting

Also, it really does not take a whole lot of programming knowledge. You can save
money and not even buy crap leads. You can make up your own crap leads and
then import them.

Bots is one thing and Crap Leads is another thing. Both are garbage of course.

And I tell you something that is worse than anything and that is being a fool.
The admins are laughing at you. They're taking your money and laughing all
the way to the bank. What a bunch of dip shxx's is what they are thinking.
You're dishing out your hard earned bucks on crap leads, bots, auto import fakes.

A reason why we should never delete our referrals » Post #3

Thu Jan 26, 2012 07:03 in General Talk

Yep. A member I sponsored 5 years ago and never clicked one single ad, came back the other day and upgraded.

They come back from time to time.

ClixGrid » Post #13

Thu Jan 26, 2012 06:50 in General Talk

No it has nothing to do with luck.

It's called 'chance'. And the chances you have of winning, is random.

Think TE are a waste of time? » Post #21

Wed Jan 25, 2012 23:53 in General Talk

I do a lot of various things online Ammadd. I don't know how many traffic exchanges I am a member of. A lot.
At one time I had a web page that I listed all the traffic exchanges. I think at some point I deleted it and now
I can't remember all of them. :oops:

Think TE are a waste of time? » Post #18

Wed Jan 25, 2012 22:58 in General Talk

Earning too low. Earning too low. Earning too low.....I would reply with the following:

It takes 5 to 60 seconds to click an ad

Upgrade is only $17 per year which entitles you to much more earnings.

Plus, when you upgrade, you get in the level system which is 8 levels deep, unlimited width.

You can make residual income within a proven company that has been operating successfully for 5 years.

What begins as small earnings, can blossom into large profits.

Maybe the best part is, there is virtually 0 risk.

Do let me know when you get tired of being scammed and tired of losing money.
Because I'll still be here, growing my residuals, getting paid cash every week, growing my profits.

Think TE are a waste of time? » Post #16

Wed Jan 25, 2012 22:18 in General Talk

Sharath412, looks like you are close to reaching payout. Once you are paid, create a simple page,
paste your payment proof. Simply say something like 'YES this REALLY PAYS and YOU can GET PAID TOO!
Then paste a screenshot on there and your clickable ref link.

I am not saying TE is the only way to gain referrals. Not by a long shot. TE is only one small source out
of an abundance of sources to use.

Ammadd, your post was rude. Plus, I have no idea what you are talking about in regards to forum signatures.
This topic is not about forum signatures. This topic is about TE. And I am not posting proof to you by taking
my time out to post a screen shot. It does not matter to me if anyone believes what I say or not. I am only
helping and that is it. I could be like a lot of people in that they don't help anyone at all and hide their user
name and don't want to tell anyone where they get referrals. I don't care to tell where I gain referrals. There's
plenty of referrals out there for everyone if they want to work to get them.

Finally I won $0.25 In ClixGrid! My First Win! » Post #4

Wed Jan 25, 2012 21:51 in Success Stories

Ah, you're very welcome. :P
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