Help you with what?

1
: the exchange of information or services among individuals, groups, or institutions; specifically : the cultivation of productive relationships for employment or business
2
: the establishment or use of a computer network

First Known Use of NETWORKING: 1967

The above is according to the Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Online often people are referred to within their own group, as networking. Take ClixSense for example.
ClixSense is owned an operated by a family. That specific family is a group. That group is a network.

Networking can be very good and it can be very bad, depending upon the network.

Some people form networks to get a head, to make money, to achieve some sort of purpose.

Some years ago a software was developed to focus on doubling a persons money. The software became
popular since it was so cheap to buy, and before you know it, the 'Doubler' industry was formed. It
seemed there was a doubler program online, every where you looked. Of course, doublers did not last
long because a person cannot keep doubling his money without new money constantly coming in. The
only way for constant money to come in, is thru constant new members joining.

What happen was, people would get together and network the doublers. This was done in a variety
of ways. Because a doubler script cost money and the money was for one license, a new script must
be purchased each time a doubler was started. So Mike, Bob, Ted, Alice might get together and split
the cost of the script, split the profits, Mike does the work. As profit flows in, Mike, Bob, Ted, Alice
again, purchase a second script, split the profits, Alice does the work. As profits flow in, again,
Mike, Bob, Ted, Alice, split the profits and Bob does the work. Finally, the first doubler has stalled,
no more money coming in, so they kill it off...POOF its gone. Now they all go in together again,
purchase another script, and so on. This is what I call a 'fraudsters Dream'. It's a network. A
group of people focusing on something, working together, to achieve a common goal.

Networks can be good.
Networks can be bad.

This is why it is very important to know who you are working with. Don't ya think? Of course.

So you go out there and join a PTC. Someone name Carl owns it. That is all you know. Are you
seriously going to give Carl your time or your money?

Mostly, I am just explaining to you how networking works, how it can be good and how it can be
bad. I am also telling you that is why its important to have security in place to protect against
fraudsters and people that network to cheat other people. This is one reason why ClixSense
implemented the 'first payout must be by check' for a few countries. This prevents cheaters
and cheat networkers.

If you'd been premium you would have made more because premium members earn 12% checklist bonus.

There's several new paid to call's listed in there today, if you do those.

That's pretty much the way it is with most things in life, if you think about it.

I've always been kind of amazed at the expectations people have online but I do think that is changing
a bit.

What I mean is, there are a lot of people that EXPECT to make a lot of cash, in a short period of time
AND what really takes the cake, is they expect it to happen for them without much work.

To take that even further, a lot of people even DEMAND it. They think just because they joined something
and/or paid a few dollars for something, they have the right to demand everything.

It's kind of weird when you think about that because......

How often do people make demands on their boss at their offline job? People will drag themselves out
of bed, get ready for work half asleep, get in a car or bus or what have you to get to work. They do it
day after day, punch the time clock day after day, year after year, rarely make any demands on anything
at their offline job, and seldom even get a raise.

Maybe all that online demanding and expectations wouldn't be too bad if the same people really had
the experience and knew what they were doing, knew what they were to expect, really have normal
expectations.

Take ClixSense, a perfect example of a great way for free to make extra money. Even with the upgrade,
it's mighty low cost. Yet, hardly a day goes by that someone isn't complaining about something here and/or
demanding something here.

.....bottom line, most people do get what they deserve.....and usually those that work hard, gain the
most success. After all, we know that a rolling stone, gathers no moss.....errr.....Bob Dylan?

Good days and Bad days, online and offline, such is life.

Yes I have launchpad but was wondering what you had, a MAC or something else.

I don't have an IPhone so I don't know what kind of set up they had on those.

dehawkinz wrote: My appologies Valerie

I took the context of the inclusion of my comment as a reference to what I said, and that your comments were meant as an observation on them.

I neither took offence, nor meant offence in my reply. I was trying to illustrate that we are working to different outlooks.

And I am in agreement, more time is what leads to more money. there are too many people who believe the 'work an hour and earn mega-buck' hype that is so frequently peddled.

and please don't go, I appreciate your insights as a lady who has seen the coming and going of internet millionaire wannabes and is still standing.

Apology accepted.

dehawkinz wrote: Valerie, If you have the time to be able to work longer online then thats great, but not everyone has - I have a job that pays my bills.
I would be plain stupid to give up my job, just so I have more time to work online. I have responsibilities beyond just myself, and includes paying my bills and providing for my family

If you think working only the time I have available online is something that makes you laugh, then I am pleased to have provided you with some humour for your day.

I am working towards a specific goal, and the plan is progressing steadily. Like you say, there is no sense in over-stretching yourself financially. and yes, it will take time to get to where I am going, but I am getting there
this totrtoise is an endurance runner

I don't know what was so difficult to understand about my comments. I said it takes time and I never
said anything about YOU in particular. I was referring to myself and how it takes a lot of time to work
online.

My gosh. I think I am simply going to stop making any comments or trying to help anyone at this forum
any more. It really is a big turn off to try and help someone and get slapped in the face. I don't know if
people don't bother to read or what it is.

I never said a word about your job or you. Good grief!

Let me know if you want me to rip your message apart.

What are you using mavericks on? Phone, laptop?

Because I always have finder on my MAC. I have not looked at everything in regards to the mavericks yet.
I probably won't use the ibooks much on MAC but I do use it some what on the iPad.

dehawkinz wrote: I would have to agree that probably Tasks/Offers is the hardest part for me.

initially it was not hard, I signed up with all the survey/offers companies and no problem, but now I have done most of the signup companies so they are not valid for me. Like most people around 90% maybe more of surveys filter me out - it can be very frustrating when they do that mid-survey and you still get no reward. Yesterday I got lucky and hit 2 50 cent surveys that I qualifed for (one was for my own bank and one was for microsoft). Like Kreacher I always seem to fall foul of the 'no social life' syndrome I work, and have other commitments which means I only get maybe a 90 minute window of opportunity on my computer.

I always do the video offers on peanut labs when they are available, they may only pay 1 or 2 cents, but I can make a drink while they are playing Of 49 completed offers, 1 was simplicio.us, 2 were download, 36 were videos, 3 were surveys, 7 were signups.

most I did in a day was 10, least was 0, average is probably 3

The clix grid is the least rewarding - I have earned 20 cents for 775 clicks - thats an average of 0.025 cents per click

but I don't do this to pay the bills, it will just about cover my TrafficWave monthly fee and that is starting to make me money now

TW is one of the best programs online, in my opinion.

In regards to making money online in this type of industry, for the most part, takes 'time'.

I can't do anything but laugh when I see/read stuff about working online only one or two hours a day.
It doesn't matter how automated you get things, if you really want to make the money, it's going to take
you more than an hour or two a day. Even after having as much automated as you can, there is still
times you have to review those things, update them, answer emails, etc

I do work online to pay my bills. Altho I have bills, I don't have major bills any more. If I can't pay
for something with cash, I usually don't buy it. I don't have a vehicle payment. I don't have a house
payment. And today, the free to earn industry pays for my trash bill, my health insurance, my life
insurance, my house insurance, my vehicle insurance, my groceries, and more. Other online industries
such as TW, GDI, go into a savings account.

The internet has been a very good place for me to work. However, one thing is absolutely for sure....
it does take TIME and a lot of it.

Kreacher wrote: I am doing better, valerie. No excuses being made. Just being honest. I know that is hard to believe in today's world. People will be . I understand that I will not qualify for most of the surveys. I do keep trying. I've made over a dollar today. Actually, close to two dollars with the bonus. That's better than I had been doing.

If you have the time, just keeping trying like I said. You will get them. Some days are better than others.

Always check thru the PeanutLab offers list, too. Some days there are very easy offers added that usually
don't pay much but it all adds up.

Yes that is correct. I should have realized (b) was still referring to employees.

He said:

The bits taken from the user agreement and the faq are not related. The user agreement bit is about ClixSense staff and their family, not users.

I have finally got it installed. Took over 4 hours to download and almost an hour to fully install.

My books from my iPad were automatically in the new ibooks on mac. Looks like some other
things from my mini iPad is there too, such as maps.

I see where you are confused.

They really should define that differently because here is the confusion as I see it:

In an effort to ensure the integrity of the ClixSense advertising program, the persons in any of the following categories are NOT eligible to participate in the ClixSense program in the capacity of ad viewer:

Well there is more here now than just viewing ads.

and then this:

(b) persons who are immediate family (defined as mother, father, sister, brother, daughter, son or spouse) of any person in any of the preceding categories, regardless of where they live. Nothing herein shall be construed to prohibit a person’s right to maintain a ClixSense account for advertising purposes nor does this policy restrict the promotion of a person’s affiliate link.

Sounds sort of contradictory. This is all you pasted here so I don't have the entire thing in front of me to
see if it says more on this topic. At any rate, I will send them a question about this because it may need
updated. According to (b) it's not prohibited in regards to advertising or promoting. Kind of weird.

Kreacher wrote:

valerie wrote:

Kreacher wrote: Just curious What is the most difficult part of the Daily Checklist Bonus for you to complete?

For me it is the Tasks or Offers. I've tried the tasks and I fail on them too much ... even if I am very careful. I have resigned myself to the video offers since most of the others want some kind of purchase or install of software that is almost always laced with toolbars or other unwanted things that install even if I tell them not to.

Oh, and the easiest for me is Visit the Forum.

I don't think you're really giving yourself a chance.

You are in the USA and the surveys are mostly for those in tier 1 countries.

I focus on trying to do all 5 SSI surveys every day and most days I do 4 or 5.
Also the Samplicios surveys popup from time to time and I usually get 1 or 2 of those daily.
There are always lots of PeanutLab surveys but I am to the point that I don't try those until AFTER I
have completed 4 or 5 SSI surveys OR if the PeanutLab surveys are at least $1.00 or more.

There is also the videos as you say you do those. The first thing I do is click on the videos above
the checklist box because that is where the majority of videos always are. I also check back on
the video player in that area thru-out the day because there is usually more. I also look on token
offers and on the matomy offers at their video player for videos at least once each day.

Another thing I do is I go thru the PeanutLabs offers list two or three times each day. For me, I
some times see in the mid to late afternoon hours, some new offers listed. These are almost always
very easy.

I have did the paid to call offers a couple of days in a row trying those out and made about $30 and
those were very easy. Of course, some people don't do those for fear someone is going to call them
like marketers.

Bottomline Kreacher, I just don't understand why you are not making more money here than you
are. No big deal if you don't want to. It does seem that you do want to. I suggest jumping in there
and giving yourself a chance, keep trying the surveys etc. It can really add up. These days I make
more from my own efforts here than I do from referrals.

My problem with surveys is that I don't have a life.

Seriously, I don't go to movie theaters, buy new clothes that often, go out to eat or even leave home much for anything other than groceries or church. I don't watch TV or listen to the radio or play video games (other than a couple on Facebook). My life is Facebook, PTC and my web sites (not in any particular order). I have no kids at home either. My income is very small so I can't afford to do much of anything I would really like to do. Once that hits the survey questions, I get disqualified.

Kreacher, you're making excuses.

The first thing to realize is, the majority of the time you attempt a survey, you will be disqualified.
That happens to everyone. It's not a big deal. You just keep trying til you do get them.

Look at me. I'm not a Spring chicken.

I get some political surveys which anyone can do by the way, just basically on your political thoughts,
a, b, c, etc.

I get a lot of health type surveys.
Also I get a lot of surveys based on health insurance, life insurance, other types of insurance.

I know you eat. If you didn't eat, you wouldn't be alive.
There are lots of surveys based on how many times a day, week, month, etc that you eat this
or that or drink this or that.

Don't they have church dinners?

You listen to church music in church? You sing in church? Singing in church is sort of a hobby.

Why don't you leave that radioloyality running when you're online?

Anyway, there is a lot of surveys you could do, you just have to keep trying over and over and
you'd probably get several every day, that you would qualify for.

save4xmas wrote: You may want to remove the section about speaking to family members

Family members are not allowed to sign up if they live in the same house or if they live abroad
Link - Question about the referral restrictions | ClixSense Forum

In this regards, I believe he was speaking in general terms. In other words, 'family members' does
not mean 'household members'. You can in fact sign up family members as long as those family
members are not in the same household.

However, you bring about a good point as that should be made clear so that people do not misunderstand
what he means.

For accurate information, see the FAQ in this regard:

ClixSense Help Center

Mine says 3 hours and 52 minutes left, at this moment. It has been yoyoing tho...I think once it said 7 hours.

I have an IPod Touch 4. I bought it a couple of years ago and at the moment, I can't remember why I
bought it. I rarely ever look at it. I don't think the thing holds a charge for more than a couple of hours.
I read some months ago online of people taking their IPod Touch 4 (and maybe other versions too) and
making them into smart phones. There are instructions online on how to do that. At one point, I really
did consider it because it is rather useless to me as is. I would have done it just to see if I could do it.

Anyway, you can't win these days in regards to staying updated on the latest and newest
techno products. You can, but you'd be spending a small fortune and wasting a lot of money
to boot.

It's kind of funny how far it's come in the computer world. In a not so long period of time, the
computer towers and monitors, are well on their way out. Even lap tops are not so much the
item any more. Tablets are it!

I'm just wondering when they'll start placing computers inside us. It's gonna happen, ya know!

I am downloading maverick and it's a slow process.....as usual.
Looks like about 5 hours.

I do love Apple products but they are certainly deviant the way they go about things to suck money
out of their customers.

When the IPAD MINI came out, I was real glad to see it and purchased. I do really like it and recently
thought I had a battery problem but I discovered it was my own fault. I did not close the cover properly
and the battery drained.

Now they are about ready to introduce the new retina display mini ipad.
I won't be buying one as it would be stupid for me to, since it's been only months since I bought the original.

A couple of weeks ago, I bought a lenovo tablet. I wanted a table that was at least some what larger
than the mini but did not want to spend the money on the larger ipad.

Back to the maverick os. It appears from the reviews that everyone likes it. At this moment, I have
4 hours left on the download.

Kreacher wrote: Just curious What is the most difficult part of the Daily Checklist Bonus for you to complete?

For me it is the Tasks or Offers. I've tried the tasks and I fail on them too much ... even if I am very careful. I have resigned myself to the video offers since most of the others want some kind of purchase or install of software that is almost always laced with toolbars or other unwanted things that install even if I tell them not to.

Oh, and the easiest for me is Visit the Forum.

I don't think you're really giving yourself a chance.

You are in the USA and the surveys are mostly for those in tier 1 countries.

I focus on trying to do all 5 SSI surveys every day and most days I do 4 or 5.
Also the Samplicios surveys popup from time to time and I usually get 1 or 2 of those daily.
There are always lots of PeanutLab surveys but I am to the point that I don't try those until AFTER I
have completed 4 or 5 SSI surveys OR if the PeanutLab surveys are at least $1.00 or more.

There is also the videos as you say you do those. The first thing I do is click on the videos above
the checklist box because that is where the majority of videos always are. I also check back on
the video player in that area thru-out the day because there is usually more. I also look on token
offers and on the matomy offers at their video player for videos at least once each day.

Another thing I do is I go thru the PeanutLabs offers list two or three times each day. For me, I
some times see in the mid to late afternoon hours, some new offers listed. These are almost always
very easy.

I have did the paid to call offers a couple of days in a row trying those out and made about $30 and
those were very easy. Of course, some people don't do those for fear someone is going to call them
like marketers.

Bottomline Kreacher, I just don't understand why you are not making more money here than you
are. No big deal if you don't want to. It does seem that you do want to. I suggest jumping in there
and giving yourself a chance, keep trying the surveys etc. It can really add up. These days I make
more from my own efforts here than I do from referrals.