CatMonster wrote: But why is it that there seems to be a hidden war against tobaco from all sides making it more expensive and harder to obtain while alcohol is available everywhere and cheap. Why is that ?
Shouldn't booze bottles also have pictures on them showing for example damaged livers similar like cigarette packages showing damaged lungs ?

Probably because to an extent, it can be good for you. Not much good about tobacco.

It's like candy. Candy can be ok in moderation. Booze can be ok in moderation.
Also, they don't pollute the air or impose on others. Yes, that can be argued.

I grew dark fired tobacco many years ago. My ex husband grew up on a large farm. His father had
tobacco bases. Not just anyone can grow tobacco. You have to have a tobacco base. I'm not sure
what all they use dark fire tobacco for these days. Usually It was primarily used in snuff, chewing
tobacco, pipe tobacco. It wasn't used in cigarettes much.

It's a livelihood CatMonster. You know, the big machinery and big farm plantations are taking
over.....Monsanto and all that. The small farmer is being rooted out bit by bit as large companies
make it impossible for them to survive. Tobacco was always a major crop in states such as
Kentucky and Tennessee. Cut the crop, the farmer's suffer. A little different when it comes to
Jack Daniel.

Sorry about that CatMonster. May just be on my end. The first image loaded fine. I didn't
see the third image. Image 2 was flashing, redirecting, and crashing safari.

Ok, I will take the blame for allowing this topic to become what it has become. It has become
against the rule 13.

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Oh not really lotoole. I mean that in it only seems everyone needs a diaper.

It's true there are plenty of elderly people that are nursing homes but listen, I do know
what I am talking about in this regard.

Most people do not go to nursing homes and I would go so far as to say that 50% of the
people in nursing homes, don't need to be there. In other words, they really could live
at home on their own and perhaps a few of those would need some home health care.

The good news is today, there are a growing number of 'better' nursing homes and an
ever growing number of 'community living centers' and 'assisted living facilities'. The
only problem is, like everything else, the 'best' cost more.

When I lived in Florida, it was impossible not to notice all the senior community living
centers and suburbs. In fact there is a very nice area at Daytona, down by Flagler
beach that is only a block or so over from the beach.....it is mostly double wide mobile
homes...all very nice. There was a few properties in there for sale. I thought it might
be nice to buy one and it would make a great vacation home. So I drove in (gated) and
drove around looking at the outside of some of the homes that were for sale. I then
went to the office and to ask to see the inside, pricing, etc. They wouldn't let me.
They wouldn't let me because I wasn't old enough. It was a senior community and you
had to be at least 55 years old to own property there.....or if you were married, you OR
your spouse had to be at least 55 years old. Of course that place, you were pretty much
on your own BUT those type of communities have many facilities and benefits for the
elderly. They have activities and most become friends easily with everyone else in the
community. So if someone needs some assistance, such as needing meals prepared
for them for awhile when sick, needing help going to town, groceries etc.....all these
things are very helpful such as meals on wheels, senior citizen buses that take to them
town, healthcare vans that provide screenings, tests, and more.

To top that off, there is the abundance of 'assisted living facilities'. These facilities can
be very posh. Each person has their own room and the rooms can be very large with
plenty of space for closet, dressers, etc. Doctors make daily visits. On site nurses
keep track of medicines and administer. Again, there are buses that take those that
do have the mobility, to town, the mall, shopping, theater, and more. Meals are all
prepared and everyone gathers in the dinning room for the main meals. You do not
have to make your bed nor sweep or mop, etc because all that is done for you. There
is activities and special events.

So all these types of places for the senior citizens, elderly, are becoming more abundant.

If we don't come up with a quality health care plan for everyone in America, I do fear we
are going to see more state run nursing homes and that is very far from good.

If we can cut out heart disease, cancer, diabetes, auto immune disease, spinal and
muscular diseases, arthritis and degenerative diseases, we will see a much longer life
span.

I want to live as long as I can and as long as I am not in extreme pain. I wouldn't mind
at all living in a community center or an assisted living facility. Some nursing homes
wouldn't be bad either. But I wouldn't want to stay in a nursing home, lay in bed from
7 pm to 7 am, be swooped up, stripped off, taken to a shower, rolled in front of a table,
be spoon fed, have a preacher come in and pat my head every other day and tell me
how wonderful things are. Believe it or not, there are a whole lot of people that really
truly like that.

Just feed the robots the same stuff they serve people and they will be too fat to function.

What makes you think the universe has been here billions of years?

I have always found that kind of funny that people believe in theories and believe in what
they read and/or believe what they hear or believe what they watch.

What's on the other side of our universe?

It's good people become educated, study, read, look at the never ending amount of theories out there.

However, there is a little something called 'experience'.

You can read, watch a movie, listen to a song you like, all those things that have baring on the way you
think. None of that matters. Wouldn't you agree none of it matters?

Think of Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde. He did not know anything except what he thought and what he theorized
and what he read. It wasn't til he drank the potion that he experienced.

Same goes with many things in life. Someone may tell you something but until you experience it for
yourself, you don't know. Like someone mentioned a 'toaster'. You might be told how the toaster works,
but until you use the toaster your self, you will not know the reality of it because you did not experience it.

Why is it that there are people that do not believe in design and creation? After all, we can look at the
new printers today. They can print out almost anything. Look at the labs that are working on using a
printing system to create body parts. If we as human's can design and create, what makes you think
that this earth was not created, that man was not created, that all that exists is not designed and not
created. That there is a creator greater than us, more knowledgeable than us, that designed and created?

I know the creator exists because i have experienced. Just like others that have experienced the creator.
We know. Just like you may know your toaster works due to your experience. We know our creator
exists because we have experienced.

It's like a nearsighted person going to class, sitting at the back of the room and not seeing anything
the professor writes on the board. You're too far away.

I don't.

I believe something forever. I know something is forever.

I don't know how people can look around and not see the design.

Design is not accidental. Design is creation.

Look at the woodpecker. There is no possible evolution there. None. Scientist will tell you there is none.
So how do you reckon woody keeps from beating his brains out? He keeps from beating his brains out
because he was designed for his brain to float inside a case in his head. He did not evolve. He was designed.

Look at yourself. Now take a look around. Why are you not a fish? Why are you not a cat, a monkey,
a giraffe, a wallaby? The reason why is because you and everything else on this planet, was designed.

There is a designer out there. Call the designer what you want but just know, the designer does exist.

You're welcome.

Ya, I don't think vaping or pot smoking is good for the lungs. I don't think anything is good
for the lungs other than air and humidity or something to help one breath.

Maybe one day people will realize they don't need a crutch. For now, they're making the health
care industry a fortune.

This is all I have to say.....
Tiny Tim - Tiptoe Through The Tulips - YouTube

pindokhan123 wrote: what i hate or rather what annoys me the most....

is when You are talking to someone and their concentration is elsewhere,,damn it i hate repeatin myself..when they say,'what was that again?'
u just wanna bash their head in with a frying pan

Or just tell your husband you are going to make him wear hearing aids.

A lot of people say this or that because in reality they have not experienced anything else.

Once you experience something else, then you will know that something else does exist.

In order to experience something else, your body should be in the presence of two more people.
It's best that your body is weak and vulnerable.

When you experience that something, at first you will feel like your body is going to sleep....like
when your feet tingle as in pins and needles when they fall asleep. This feeling will consume
your body. Your sadness will suddenly disappear and you will feel very joyful. You'll be so
happy. A joy you have never known before. You may find yourself dancing, singing, running,
skipping, jumping, uncontrollably. You may even find yourself talking in a language you don't
understand. Then you will know that something else, really truly does exist.

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There is actually 12 main flavors of Hershey's Kissie's.
However, they do have more flavors of which many you only see at holidays.
There is even pumpkin spice, strawberry, carrot cake, and more.

What's your favorite?

I'm kind of partial to the dark chocolate, caramel, almond, and the mint. It's difficult to choose just one.

Actually, I am surprised they don't have 'organic' cigarettes. Maybe they do, I don't know but
the though occurred to me just now.

It can't be good to take any foreign material into your lungs.

However, I think a lot of what is bad for your lungs is the process of tobacco and all the
carcinogens that are in it.

Years ago, people smoked cigarettes that probably had tobacco worms in it. Their lungs
were probably healthier in comparison of a smoker today.

I think you're from Wallabebury

People make all kinds of excuses for not quitting. When they finally become honest with theirselves,
as BouldRake pointed out, they will stop smoking.

My excuses to continue smoking were like most cigarette smokers excuses. The big excuse was
'well ya gonna die of something so it might as well be lung cancer' and another one is 'well my
great great great great grandpa smoke all his life and lived to be 196'. Oh here is another great
one that women usually like to use 'if I quit smoking I will get fat'.

The real facts are, people that use tobacco, are very highly going to die from it. They are going
to cut their lives shorter. They will die a most uncomfortable death. They do spread second hand
smoke. Many do suffer for years before they die.....yes, I said YEARS and it is often called COPD.
Many will be on OXYGEN. Many will be FORCED to quit in order to use their oxygen. Many will
drag an oxygen tank around with them. Many will never leave their house because the oxygen
tanks are cumbersome. Many will need to have fluid drained from their body, some times on a
regular basis. Many will suffer from a large number of OTHER health issues, skin problems,
pneumonia, flue's, carcinoma's, and more. People that smoke, do die from other complications
before they die of the actual cancer. People that smoke, can die and many do die, at a very
early age. When you smoke, at some point you will begin to cough and gurgle. You'll hack.
You'll be lucky if you can carry on a conversation with anyone without hacking or coughing.
When you lay down to sleep, you will sound like someone attempting to gargle listening for the
first time. You will wheeze and gurgle. Eventually you will cough up what will look to be greenish
black snot....it will become worse. You will have so much of it that you'll need to carry a pack
of paper towels with you around the house or worse.....the ultimate worse.....a coke can or
some other type of can to spit the foul contents of your black lungs.

If you smoke cigarettes in your house, your house and most everything in it, smells and turns
yellowish orange. No matter how much you clean, since you consistently smoke, your house
becomes consistently smoked in like a ham that has been hanging in a smoke house for years.
Your clothes turn orange. In fact, many clothes you will wash but they will still smell like
smoke. Everyone that goes around you, won't want to embarrass you so they say nothing
but they are glad when they leave your presence because fresh tobacco smells so good but
used tobacco smells like stinking puke and you will smell like a walking talking stinking puke
stick.

When you stop smoking, you will feel renewed. You will kick yourself for not quitting sooner.
You'll wish you had all the money back that you spent on cigarettes all those years. Your
house will smell like a summer breeze. People will actually smell your cologne on you for the
first time ever. Your skin will brighten. You'll look younger. Your hair will soften. You might
even find your hair thickens. You'll feel more toned. Old bones, aches, pains, arthritis, seems
more dull. You'll actually smell things, things you thought you could smell but you really didnt
until now. You'll taste all the flavors in your foods. You won't feel so tired. You'll be able
to walk longer and faster. Your endurance is greater. Your eyes are brighter. Your brain
functions easier and faster. You'll feel 100% better than you have felt since you were a kid.
And then............

You see someone smoking, you know what they are doing to themselves.

STOP making excuses and QUIT!

Ya, I am one of those people that say, if I can quit smoking, anyone can. I believe that.

I started smoking when I was ten years old. My sister that is over 4 years older than I, smoked.
Most of us as kids had an older sibling that smoked. Yes, in the 60's we had lots of commercials
of beer and cigarettes. The land of sky blue waters and the ever famous Marlboro man. Even
TV shows displayed people smoking....all of those Twilight Zone type shows...and even Rod
died of cancer.....always had a cigarette in his mouth/hand. Dean Martin, cigarette in one hand,
whiskey in the other.

YOU really can quit smoking.

It's a terrible thing to watch someone die of lung cancer. I have seen it all. Some people with
lung cancer drown in their own black fluid, a slow death. Some spew pieces of their lungs. Some
spew black blood. I am not talking about a few drops of blood. I am talking about coffee ground
blood that gushes from the mouth like a projector.....covers the hospital walls, bed, everything.
It's a really really really really horrible way to die.

We all will die but you do not want to die like that.

You have to take it one day at a time. Don't think about tomorrow. Just throw the cigarettes
away and say I will NOT smoke today. No matter what, I will NOT smoke today. Then when
tomorrow comes, say it again..... I will NOT smoke today. The patch is the best thing to use
because it will help wean you from the nicotine and the urge to smoke is reduced. But don't
think about tomorrow or the next week or the next month. I will NOT smoke today and go
to youtube and look at the lung cancer videos.

I believe that is it in a nutshell. You have to really want to quit.

When you get to the point you really want to quit, you'll stop making excuses and do it.

Actually, cigarettes were a very inexpensive addiction. Probably the most inexpensive addiction ever.

It also has always depended on where you live, in regards to price of cigarettes.

In the 1960's, in the North East (Chicago area) of the USA, cigarettes sold for about $0.35 per pack.
In that exact same time frame, in the South East (Kentucky area) of the USA, cigarettes sold for about $0.19 per pack.

In the very early 70's, cigarette prices began to rise slightly in the USA. By the mid 70's, in the South,
Generic cigarettes began to populate due to the rise in cigarette prices. A carton of generic cigarettes
(ten packs per carton) sold for $3.00. It wasn't long and the same cartons rose in the 70's to $5.00
per carton as name brand cigarettes rose in price.

I know all that from first hand experience. Not reading from anything.

So by the time the 1980's rolled in, cigarette prices along with taxation was rising steadily. By the
1990's prices really began to soar as well as gasoline.

It's truly one of the largest increases in prices for a product over the years, that I have personally
experienced. Cigarettes and Gasoline. Over the course of 50 years, I'd have to say those are huge
increases and even Gasoline is Less in rise than cigarettes.

The same to you and yours.