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#1 by Nikorj » Tue Jan 23, 2018 02:39

This is weird :?:

At 9am this morning somebody buzzed my doorphone while i was taking a dump on the toilet, Nothing strange at that as it's most often the mail man or a delivery service that tries getting into the stairway if no one is home.

But then this person stops outside my door and tries to open it from the outside with a key without knocking or asking if anyone was home :?: (Wrong key) And couldn't open it.

I chose "NOT" to open the door as it seemed way way to strange, If it wer'e someone i knew they would have shouted if i was home or at least called me or something.

Well!! After a couple of minutes the person left again, Probably a mistake Buuuut!!, Big city and lot's of crazy shit happens from time to time.

What would you have done?
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#2 by jjohnson777 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 05:49

Let my coward cats out oposit door to scare them away. Nope.

Open door and let them see my wounderful toothless smile. Yup that might give them heart-attack or worse happen my nephew finally gets my life insurance. But doubt ever happen as someone always here so they not likely try my door.
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#3 by Charez » Tue Jan 23, 2018 05:53

Maybe a blonde with a huge need :lol:
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#4 by valerie » Tue Jan 23, 2018 06:14

Call the police.

ALWAYS call the police and it may help if you go ahead and call.

Just because the intruder went away, does not mean he is not watching.
If you call the police, the intruder may not see you as an easy target.

If you don't have a weapon, boil water in a large pan. When the intruder
opens your door to attack you, stand by the stove ready to throw the
boiling water on him.

Where I live, buckshot works wonders.
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#5 by Nikorj » Tue Jan 23, 2018 07:14

valerie wrote: Call the police.

ALWAYS call the police and it may help if you go ahead and call.

Just because the intruder went away, does not mean he is not watching.
If you call the police, the intruder may not see you as an easy target.

If you don't have a weapon, boil water in a large pan. When the intruder
opens your door to attack you, stand by the stove ready to throw the
boiling water on him.

Where I live, buckshot works wonders.

Thanks for the suggestion Val ;)

If this happens 1 more time it's certainly not a mistake, And i will call the cops.

I'm actually more puzzled than worried about this happening.

If it's an attempt at breaking in, It's a very bad one. Random keys will (OF course) not open my door and doing anything else like trying to kick in the door will just alert hundreds of people, And even more eye-witnesses when carrying out the loot from my apartment.

The caretaker is the only one besides myself that has a set of spare-keys, But he's not allowed to hand them out to anyone but myself unless i've given someone else a permission (they even have to show their ID). And even if that wer'e the case, The person should be able to open the door and wouldn't have to use the door-buzzer in the first place :?:

Geeez, Maybe i live to close to Christania where lot's of shady people resides. :mrgreen:
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#6 by valerie » Tue Jan 23, 2018 07:58

It is puzzling, for sure.

Could be someone simply had their address mixed up. In other words, perhaps a
real estate agent or landlord, gave the keys to the person wanting to look at an
apartment for rent. Thinking your place was the address. Maybe the person was
even on the wrong street.

Sounds to me like, a simple mistake. But one never knows because there are a
lot lunatics out there and most lunatics do not have common sense.
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#7 by Nikorj » Tue Jan 23, 2018 08:36

You're problaby right Val :D

Good thing is that the police station is less than 1 km away :thumbup:

We have this on-going case in Denmark where a rich U-boat owner "Peter Madsen" Decapitated a female journalist named Kim wall and threw her body parts in the ocean, What a complete psychopat :shock:

Kim Wall case: Decapitation videos reportedly found on computer of suspect in journalist's death - The Washington Post

They are out there in the winter-darkness, Just waiting for you ;)
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#8 by valerie » Tue Jan 23, 2018 12:18

Yes there are a lot of crazies out there and you know what.........

I believe they are getting younger.

Seriously for example the school shootings of which there was another
one this morning in a county I am very familiar with and hoping the dead
and shooter is no one I know. I have lots of relatives and some old friends
in that area. I'm almost afraid to hear the names.

I also heard on the news just yesterday that there is more serial killers
today than ever before in history.

Of course, one has to almost laugh at the 'ever before in history' since
the reality is, we don't have a lot of history. In other words, who is to
say how many serial killers were in the world in the 12th century. :mrgreen:

I know one thing, those cereal killers better not try and get my cereal !
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#9 by lotoole » Tue Jan 23, 2018 13:04

Do you rent? If so, ask your landlord who has access to the apartment keys.

Anyway, I hope that after that terrible scare you were able to successfully complete your business! :P
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#10 by tasman1 » Tue Jan 23, 2018 19:14

CroqueMitaine wrote: Maybe a blonde with a huge need :lol:


NEVER lock you door
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#11 by Nikorj » Wed Jan 24, 2018 03:34

lotoole wrote: Do you rent? If so, ask your landlord who has access to the apartment keys.

Anyway, I hope that after that terrible scare you were able to successfully complete your business! :P

Its a cooperative property/apartment, So there's no access for a landlord or any estate agent.

I own 50% of my apartment and the union own the other 50%, They have no right to access my apartment (Does this exist in America?)

I have the responsibilty to maintain the interior, Their job is maintaining the exterior.
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#12 by Nikorj » Wed Jan 24, 2018 03:40

tasman1 wrote:
CroqueMitaine wrote: Maybe a blonde with a huge need :lol:


NEVER lock you door

I need one of those doors with an automatic blonde opener.

It stays locked when brunettes gets near it :thumbup:
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#13 by valerie » Wed Jan 24, 2018 05:24

Nikorj wrote:
lotoole wrote: Do you rent? If so, ask your landlord who has access to the apartment keys.

Anyway, I hope that after that terrible scare you were able to successfully complete your business! :P

Its a cooperative property/apartment, So there's no access for a landlord or any estate agent.

I own 50% of my apartment and the union own the other 50%, They have no right to access my apartment (Does this exist in America?)

I have the responsibilty to maintain the interior, Their job is maintaining the exterior.

No. As far as I know there is no such thing as an apartment like you have stated, in America.

Of course, people can make various arrangements and contracts, so I suppose one could say
there is similar.

We have something called 'Time Shares'. Time Shares are usually vacation properties in which
people enter into an agreement to share the apartment/housing with other people and all parties
have the responsibility to pay. This can vary widely in regards to cost.

We have something called 'Rent to Own'. Some people that own property may offer to sell it on
a rental agreement. The person pays rent but can walk away any time he/she wants. Upkeep
can vary depending on the Rent to Own contract. With a Rent to Own, usually the renters have
to keep the place up because it is similar to buying it. The big difference here is that as I stated,
the renters can simply pack up and leave any time and not obligated to buy it. Also, with some
Rent to Own contracts, there may be varying stipulations. Some people will allow a renter to
apply a percentage of the rent to purchase. For example say the renter paid $500 a month for
ten years and the contract stated every month $200 would be applied to the purchase price if
the renter decided to purchase.

We also have people that just want someone to keep up the property and not let it run down.
So these people might rent out their property for little to nothing with the stipulation the renter
takes care of everything.

Most anything and everything goes here in America and simply depends on what people want
to do and the contract that choose to make.
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#14 by Arvind9 » Wed Jan 24, 2018 07:00

Good you are safe,wonder what kind of doors you have in your country,a lock makes no difference,we have four inch thick doors but the lock is no security, you need only two people to give it a push couple of time and without a noise the door is open,people put up metal doors for protection but still dont feel safe they use all kinds of devices including CCTV but crime is very sofisticated anything can be taken care of.
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#15 by Nikorj » Wed Jan 24, 2018 07:41

valerie wrote:
Nikorj wrote:
lotoole wrote: Do you rent? If so, ask your landlord who has access to the apartment keys.

Anyway, I hope that after that terrible scare you were able to successfully complete your business! :P

Its a cooperative property/apartment, So there's no access for a landlord or any estate agent.

I own 50% of my apartment and the union own the other 50%, They have no right to access my apartment (Does this exist in America?)

I have the responsibilty to maintain the interior, Their job is maintaining the exterior.

No. As far as I know there is no such thing as an apartment like you have stated, in America.

Of course, people can make various arrangements and contracts, so I suppose one could say
there is similar.

We have something called 'Time Shares'. Time Shares are usually vacation properties in which
people enter into an agreement to share the apartment/housing with other people and all parties
have the responsibility to pay. This can vary widely in regards to cost.

We have something called 'Rent to Own'. Some people that own property may offer to sell it on
a rental agreement. The person pays rent but can walk away any time he/she wants. Upkeep
can vary depending on the Rent to Own contract. With a Rent to Own, usually the renters have
to keep the place up because it is similar to buying it. The big difference here is that as I stated,
the renters can simply pack up and leave any time and not obligated to buy it. Also, with some
Rent to Own contracts, there may be varying stipulations. Some people will allow a renter to
apply a percentage of the rent to purchase. For example say the renter paid $500 a month for
ten years and the contract stated every month $200 would be applied to the purchase price if
the renter decided to purchase.

We also have people that just want someone to keep up the property and not let it run down.
So these people might rent out their property for little to nothing with the stipulation the renter
takes care of everything.

Most anything and everything goes here in America and simply depends on what people want
to do and the contract that choose to make.

Ah! okay, Had a little difficulty finding the right word for it ;)

Instead of paying a rent you could say i pay a kind of levy/toll to the union that runs them , But it's much less than an actual normal!! rent. It's kind of a business model and we all pay to maintain and run it.

The rent to own options sounds pretty good to me and somewhat resembles what it is when you normally rent an apartment in Denmark, Only difference is that it's the owner that pays for all the upholding and repairs (Which involves a lot more risk when renting it out).

It was the only option i could afford in Copenhagen as even small apartmens on 40-60 squaremetres (About 430-645 squarefoot in the us) costs well over 1.000.000 DKK (It's insane), Unless you want a bank-loan and get stuck in your apartment for the next 40 years while paying it out.

The cooperative model usually makes it around a 1/4 of what it would normally cost you to own, We're also responsible for selling our apartment again when moving out, Or use an estate agent (But that will cost ya)
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#16 by Nikorj » Wed Jan 24, 2018 07:52

Arvind9 wrote: Good you are safe,wonder what kind of doors you have in your country,a lock makes no difference,we have four inch thick doors but the lock is no security, you need only two people to give it a push couple of time and without a noise the door is open,people put up metal doors for protection but still dont feel safe they use all kinds of devices including CCTV but crime is very sofisticated anything can be taken care of.

Thank's :)

We also have those thick security doors and 3 locks for security reasons, Good thing is that i also have a bacdoor leading down to uor backyard which is a closed off area with steel-gates (I can always make a run for it in that direction) :mrgreen:

It's the center of copenhagen, But not the safest neighbourhood.
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#17 by valerie » Wed Jan 24, 2018 09:55

With a rent to own, the landlord usually is the one that covers all repairs, unless some
other agreement is made.

There is also something called a 'Land Contract' which is more of what I was describing.

A Land Contract you can purchase a house without being obligated to ever finish paying
for it. It's similar to a Rent to Own only much more detailed.

For example a Rent to Own would be a contract in which the landlord would agree to
sell you the house. In other words, as long as you live there, the landlord would sell
you the house if you ever wanted to buy it AND at least a portion or all of the rent you
paid would apply to the purchase price. It would be stated in the contract. In the mean
time, the landlord is usually the one that has to pay for upkeep and repairs.....roof damage,
plumbing, termite inspections, etc.

For example a Land Contract is similar to buying the house. All the money paid every
month, goes automatically to the purchase price. You've actually bought the house BUT
you can walk away from it at any time without receiving any type of penalty. With a Land
Contract, the house is yours, almost like paying a mortgage. You are responsible for repairs.
Land Contracts can vary depending on the contract. Agreement might be made to pay a
percentage down on the house just like you would if you were buying a house outright.

Some people ask 'Why would anyone sell a house on a Land Contract?' Well the answer
is rather easy. If a house cannot sell, for example. Perhaps the owner has listed the
house for sell but no buyers. As time goes by, the house sits empty which is not good.
So the owner can make a land contract deal with someone that perhaps has poor credit
but is stable and can make the payments. So it can benefit both buyer and seller.
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#18 by jjohnson777 » Thu Jan 25, 2018 10:29

Nope not calling police. I rather risk it me giving the heart-attack.
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