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#21 by valerie » Tue Apr 04, 2017 11:36

I also forgot to add that I planted a lot of squash last year and it did very well.
Mostly yellow squash.

Although the zucchini squash did not do great.
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#22 by greengarden » Sun Apr 09, 2017 10:12

Congrats Ms. V for being God's steward of His creations! FYI am an itchy propagator of fruit bearing seedlings, garden flora, crops, herbs, livestock & fresh water fish. Believe me, I propagate them with respect, love and care. :D
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#23 by pindokhan123 » Sun Apr 09, 2017 11:49

well im going to experiment this year,im taking a whole bunch of every veg seed available here,homebase or somewhere,then taking em' to Pakistan,i want to see if the british veg will grow and survive in a different climate. hope it does coz then i want to build a greenhouse and try to grow veg all year round.

has anyone anywhere,taken seeds from one country and tried to grow it in another?

are there seeds available online that are really sturdy and can withstand harsh weather and changing climates?
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#24 by valerie » Sun Apr 09, 2017 14:12

It depends on the seeds. Seed packets have instructions on them. At least the ones sold in the USA do.

I try to stay away from 'monsanto' seeds.

If you have the organic seeds, when your veggies/fruit are harvested, you can save some of the seeds
for next years planting.
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#25 by pindokhan123 » Sun Apr 09, 2017 14:20

the varieties in England are very different to those that of Pakistan, that's why i quite dubious as to whether they will grow or not or die out half way through.........well gotta try before assuming anything b4 hand.
i do try and save seeds from previous veg like okra,courgettes and pumpkins etc.
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#26 by valerie » Sun Apr 09, 2017 15:57

It probably doesn't matter where the seeds are sold, per se.

That is why I said to look at the instructions on the seed packets. Usually the seeds packets should
relay 'full sun', 'plant at 1/4 inch', 'drought tolerant', 'space 6 inches', etc.
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#27 by pindokhan123 » Sun Apr 09, 2017 16:07

yeah they do have instructions on the back,i mean for example spring here is more like autumn there,the climate is more or less double what it is here............for eg today was pretty hot 25.5c in oxford whereas in Pakistan it was around 38'c and its going up daily more or less.
the winters there are very cruel too,i planted potatoes last year and half of them withered away at the leaves coz it was so cold,had i planted em in my mums garden they would've ok.

i think seeds have to be really sturdy to withstand temps,oh well i will follow the instructions for everything i can sow in May that includes;

Chillies, peppers,cucumbers,runner beans. ...lettuce,cauliflower,brussel sprouts,beets,cabbage,carrots,corn,cucumbers,melons and tomatoes.

any others?
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#28 by valerie » Sun Apr 09, 2017 16:20

It would just depend on what the information says.

Some stuff is heat tolerant and drought tolerant and other stuff isn't.

Toss the seeds in the dirt and see if they come up. :lol:
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#29 by pindokhan123 » Sun Apr 09, 2017 18:17

trust me val,i have tossed alot of stuff in the past and its sprouted,even when i am doing the washing up back home,bits of tomato and seeds left over from salads etc goes down the plug hole,next minute b4 you know it there tomatoe plants in the fields around us,,,,,,,,,,,,,our drainage system goes straight from our home into the fields,all underground about 2 feet.

all my water from bathroom ,washing machine goes straight through another drain into the garden where it feeds my fruit trees.
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#30 by valerie » Sun Apr 09, 2017 18:44

Well that is not good.

It's against the law here. However many people in rural areas do the same, just run the line out
into the field or a ditch area.

I wouldn't want to eat anything that came from such a line. Washing detergents, dish detergents,
soaps, etc. Don't eat anything it is watering/feeding.
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#31 by pindokhan123 » Sun Apr 09, 2017 18:53

well val so far its working fine for us,no stench or anything,coz my house is out in the open i just have fields and open land around me,all the water goes out from my home straight int the field ,where its absorbed asap.
i understand where you are coming from but in countries like pakistan,India this is the system that many people living in rural areas employ....whereas in the UK, America,Europe there's a proper underground sewage system.

its not by choice but there is no other option.
we do use alot of water in the summer so all in all not too bad really.....i do water my veg with clean water but some trees in my garden get the veggie and dish water. As im practically living off the grid i try to utilize everything as best as i can.
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#32 by tasman1 » Sun Apr 09, 2017 19:22

pindokhan123 wrote: well im going to experiment this year,im taking a whole bunch of every veg seed available here,homebase or somewhere,then taking em' to Pakistan,i want to see if the british veg will grow and survive in a different climate. hope it does coz then i want to build a greenhouse and try to grow veg all year round.

has anyone anywhere,taken seeds from one country and tried to grow it in another?

are there seeds available online that are really sturdy and can withstand harsh weather and changing climates?



Do that in Au and you finish in jail [ no worry I will visit you ] :mrgreen:
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#33 by pindokhan123 » Sun Apr 09, 2017 19:37

its called primitive living tasman, its how we all started b4 the sewage system of today,guess i'm back to living primitively,no option really but not a problem either, i enjoy all the perks of living in the countryside,drain or no drain :D
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#34 by seaeagle » Sun Apr 09, 2017 20:04

pindokhan123 wrote: its called primitive living tasman, its how we all started b4 the sewage system of today,guess i'm back to living primitively,no option really but not a problem either, i enjoy all the perks of living in the countryside,drain or no drain :D

Being jailed for bringing foreign plants into Australia is nothing to do with whether we support or oppose primitive living. In fact, much of our flora & fauna is more primitive than that found in Europe, Asia, Africa & the Americas. We even have mammals that lay eggs - a very primitive method of reproduction compared to modern mammals internal (placental) reproduction.

It is because we have strict quarantine laws down here, due to the fact that Australia's geographic isolation over the past 100+ million years means most of our our plants & animals have never encountered the various diseases, fungi & other pests that are commonplace in Eurasia & have thus developed no immunity or methods to combat them.
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#35 by pindokhan123 » Sun Apr 09, 2017 20:14

sure seaeagle same here too but when you are living in a rural environment the same luxuries lol, ie sewage systems in cities are kinda difficult to implement.

ideally i would love to have the basics but obviously i cant so you best get on with what you got,aint too bad really.
but i tell you one thing,since moving out there almost 11 years ago i feel much healthier,rarely get ill and i find it so relaxing and peaceful.
whenever i come to England i tend to catch the cold,joints ache and all your other common ailments just seem to love me.

my home is pretty large ,massive garden,i keep everything immaculate,cleanliness is my topmost priority there, i actually prefer the rural life to an urban one any day.
in the beginning it was difficult to adjust too but now i am happily settled in.
i did pay a high price to get electricity there which was no1 priority for me, i have all the devices for high internet access,got solar panels,water pump,air conditioners fitted throughout.

i also have a stone oven outside which i built 2 years ago after watching someone else build one on youtube :D

pretty good at diy and always looking for ways to make the most of living in the jungle lol
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#36 by valerie » Sun Apr 09, 2017 23:08

Don't they have septic tanks there?
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#37 by pindokhan123 » Mon Apr 10, 2017 03:43

no valerie, sometimes i feel like i'm reliving history caught in a time warp :shock:

if you got money no matter where you are,you can at least afford the basics for a decent living otherwise many people just make do with what they have.Many countries in Asia are 3rd world countries,poor,living standards are much lower than that of the rest of the world ,especially in rural areas where the government spends the least,even if that,so people are literally forced to make do with whatever they got.
i am kind of fortunate so my standard of living is pretty high compared to many but still,i don't see myself superior to anyone and have helped many people in my area with what i could afford.
i am no millionaire nor am i rich,i work too and believe me when there are not many opportunities around you count yourself lucky with what God has given you,no matter how small or big it is.

the main reason for me living in a rural area is the peace and tranquility it offers,i been bought up in a city all my life,done it all,tasted everything ,now is kinda like detoxing myself.
i did find the city life very hectic and stressful,basically working all day,keeping up mortgage payments,paying the bills,car insurance,tax etc........so many bills,so many responsibilities ,eventually i had enough,especially after my accident which really prompted me to change my whole lifestyle,so there you go,i have no regrets but some decisions i should have taken more time over,anywayz still happy overall.
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#38 by tasman1 » Mon Apr 10, 2017 04:52

Yeh . life can be hard and sh... sometimes
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#39 by pindokhan123 » Mon Apr 10, 2017 05:14

yep tasman that's true and can be crap no matter where you live,whether in the city or in a jungle,important thing is you have to survive,today's world of tech has increased people spending,in the olden days ppl lived without what we have today and still managed to live a happy simple life.
i find city life too hectic,too expensive and too many responsibilities...........there comes a point in your life when you just feel that you have had enough and time to make some changes,i am glad i did.
theres no person in this world that doesn't want a stress free life,but many are forced to work and continue living the way they do just to survive and keep the bills upto date.
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#40 by tasman1 » Mon Apr 10, 2017 05:29

My first 3 years here was in Sydney , pure sh..t , 5 million people , not for me
Moved here to Tas , city 50 000 people , but now 100.00 , to big for me . crap , like to buy a farm but cost to much
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