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Tax the Rich or Kill the Poor

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#1 by tasman1 » Sun May 22, 2016 03:42

Wealth is essentially finite. There’s only so much to go around.

When a nation’s wealth is concentrated in the hands of a few, the rest of its citizens are left with little more than long days of struggle, painful progress and unattainable dreams. We see it in the Middle East, in Africa and Asia, and in Third World countries where rulers and their cliques soak up all the wealth like so much gravy.

And we are seeing it today in America.

It won’t be long before we reach the tipping point, when students won’t have money for college, cities won’t have money for schools and libraries, governments won’t have money for basic services, and the poor won’t have anywhere to turn.

It seems as if we’re living in a Charles Dickens novel where the same Dickensian actors — greed, hard-heartedness, self-righteousness and moral vacuity — have once again stepped center stage to suggest, by their actions if not their words, that it might be better for the poor to die and decrease the surplus population.

No matter that those actions are thinly disguised behind Big Lies repeated over and over by agents and tools of the wealthy — by newspapers and TV stations owned by the rich, by a political process and Supreme Court controlled by the rich, by sound bites and legislation pushed by rich politicians — that taxes are unfair, that corporations are people, that the wealthiest among us have no obligation to assist the poorest, that government exists to protect wealth rather than its citizens, and that the surest way to help the poor is to advance the purpose and cause of the wealthy.

How can we still be talking about trickle down economics when so little wealth ever actually trickles down?

If you accept one basic premise — that wealth is finite — then all the financial, economic and social upheaval in our country starts to make sense. There isn’t enough to go around when one sector gets a lock-tight grip on the purse and the purse strings. Once that happens, with so little left on the table, those of us who aren’t rich find ourselves battling each other for an ever-dwindling share of the pie. Programs compete against programs. The needy compete with the needy. Infants battle the elderly and the poor for nutrition allocations. Recovering alcoholics challenge the homeless and disabled veterans for shelter dollars. Sesame Street scraps for funds needed to regulate Wall Street. All the while, the public sector continues to implode and gentrification cruelly pushes families and poor people out of their homes.

The recent attack on public sector unions in Wisconsin is merely the edge of the scythe as it begins to mow down the social contract we grew up with and came to expect from a civilized society. Collective bankruptcy is the problem, not collective bargaining!

Tax breaks for the wealthy that began with Ronald Reagan and continued under George W. Bush were beyond obscene, as are the bone-deep cuts to government programs now regularly enacted by a government bled dry of its assets by the Republican Party under the guise of fiscal responsibility. By protecting their excessive assets, the wealthy among us are endangering the lives and livelihoods of so many others. Children will go hungry; students will forgo college; retirees will see their pensions cut; people will lose their jobs and homes; many will go without winter heating fuel; cities will lay off police, teachers and firemen; while the health of our poorest citizens will dramatically decline — all so that a small group of wealthy individuals can amass and accumulate ever more and more money.

Tax the rich or kill the poor? What would Charles Dickens have done?
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#2 by Krish900 » Sun May 22, 2016 04:06

In the coming decades we will see many countries come out of poverty and various new superpowers emerge. When this happens the current corrupt status quo will be no more as there will be no more rich countries having power over poor countries. China, India and Africa are the three to watch out for from a investors point of view.
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#3 by jjohnson777 » Sun May 22, 2016 06:01

Why not all pay same rate if did alot dumb programs be gone.

Russia spends $63 billion on defense. US budget for defense $680 billion. Thanks to Syria some would say Russia has better weapons. USA way over spends as our dummy leaders ask every feature and be for all branch if they only get must have and make different version for each branch be way cheaper.

We spend 10 times what they do for not much better weapons. And they should have all new weapons in next 5-10 years why there budget higher than normal. USA could not afford that.

USA finished last in recent tank compensation they used rank first. Russia has most tanks in world fact few know. Russia also has most nuclear bombs. US might of won cold war but Russia will win next one.
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#4 by Arvind9 » Sun May 22, 2016 06:33

jjohnson777 wrote: Why not all pay same rate if did alot dumb programs be gone.

Russia spends $63 billion on defense. US budget for defense $680 billion. Thanks to Syria some would say Russia has better weapons. USA way over spends as our dummy leaders ask every feature and be for all branch if they only get must have and make different version for each branch be way cheaper.

We spend 10 times what they do for not much better weapons. And they should have all new weapons in next 5-10 years why there budget higher than normal. USA could not afford that.

USA finished last in recent tank compensation they used rank first. Russia has most tanks in world fact few know. Russia also has most nuclear bombs. US might of won cold war but Russia will win next one.

Bill Clinton promoted trillions of dollars of investment in China if Hillary Clinton is the next US President she will also try to do the

same she loves China ,why did Bill Clinton do it to counter India and Russia,if Russia wins the next cold war maybe then that Chinese strategy failed all that investment just so that China still makes duplicate of everything.
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#5 by tasman1 » Sun May 22, 2016 06:37

Politicians just doing what greedy are ordering , fix rich and you will fix politicians
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#6 by sweetpie3000 » Sun May 22, 2016 09:07

Did Ronald Reagan tax cut didn't work out. The rich got richer. Compare baseball salary in 1980 vs 2016 salary?

Go Bernie sanders. Bernie sander are beating Donald trump?
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#7 by proadco » Sun May 22, 2016 19:13

Penny Banger's so clueless when they bash President Reagan that lowered corporate taxes that lead
to 21.5 million new jobs with companies investing in expanding their business that created the need
to hire those 21.5 million new jobs.

Penny Bangers are so clueless of what killed those jobs when the Democrats got in office with Clinton's
created economic destruction with NAFTA, 3 strike rule, repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act, 78 days of bombing on the Serbs on the behalf of the Saudi's. There is an entire laundry lists where the Clinton's lead the path to bring the
NWO agenda in, right after BUSH SR promised Americans the NWO will reign for the founders of the United Nations.

Really ashame voters not able to think for themselves and allow main stream media to do their thinking for them.
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#8 by valerie » Sun May 22, 2016 19:20

If you don't place quotes and give credit for whomever wrote that article, it is
considered a form of plagiarism. Any time you copy someones work without
stating who it belongs to, you become liable.
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#9 by sweetpie3000 » Mon May 23, 2016 08:52

Charles should done tax the rich. If you kill the poor. Poor have no money to spend. The rich is going suffer in the long run. Rich will end up poor since your are losing money running your business.
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