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#1 by valerie » Wed Apr 06, 2016 22:53

I know this is going to sound crazy but thought I'd ask anyway.

To tell you the truth, I was absolutely shocked to find an enormous
amount of posts all over the internet of people smelling phantom
smoke.

It is very annoying to say the least. The good part is, it does go
away after some days or some weeks. Months will pass and I don't
smell it and then there it is again. It is a very heavy nauseating
aroma.

I continue to research it from time to time and I found a post of
a woman stating she figured it out......she says it is her dead
grandmother visiting her. :shock:
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#2 by D3rva » Wed Apr 06, 2016 23:13

valerie wrote: I know this is going to sound crazy but thought I'd ask anyway.

To tell you the truth, I was absolutely shocked to find an enormous
amount of posts all over the internet of people smelling phantom
smoke.

It is very annoying to say the least. The good part is, it does go
away after some days or some weeks. Months will pass and I don't
smell it and then there it is again. It is a very heavy nauseating
aroma.

I continue to research it from time to time and I found a post of
a woman stating she figured it out......she says it is her dead
grandmother visiting her. :shock:


@ valerie,

any chance her dead grandmother left the email so I can send it to her my ClixSense referral link? :D
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#3 by valerie » Wed Apr 06, 2016 23:33

D3rva wrote:
valerie wrote: I know this is going to sound crazy but thought I'd ask anyway.

To tell you the truth, I was absolutely shocked to find an enormous
amount of posts all over the internet of people smelling phantom
smoke.

It is very annoying to say the least. The good part is, it does go
away after some days or some weeks. Months will pass and I don't
smell it and then there it is again. It is a very heavy nauseating
aroma.

I continue to research it from time to time and I found a post of
a woman stating she figured it out......she says it is her dead
grandmother visiting her. :shock:


@ valerie,

any chance her dead grandmother left the email so I can send it to her my ClixSense referral link? :D

Can't say as she did. Guess you might try a ouija board. :?
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#4 by dutch1898 » Thu Apr 07, 2016 00:32

Re: phantom smoke: Could it be from having smoked before and it repeating itself years after you have quit? :x
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#5 by valerie » Thu Apr 07, 2016 00:50

dutch1898 wrote: Re: phantom smoke: Could it be from having smoked before and it repeating itself years after you have quit? :x

I wondered about that but no, that is not it.

The best information I have read is that it can be due to several different things.
I came across this page in the UK one day and it made the most sense:
Phantosmia (smelling odours that aren't there) - NHS Choices

It was interesting to see on that UK page it listed 'dental'. I've been having issues
with my teeth the last couple of years and I am thinking this might in fact be a
nerve thing resulting from my teeth to my nasal passages.

I have ten teeth left on the bottom of my mouth. All my back teeth are gone.
Out of the ten teeth on the bottom of my mouth, at this very moment, 4 need to
be extracted. I have nine teeth on the top of my mouth....all back teeth gone...
out of the ones on the top, at least 2 need extracted.

So, I've been trying to decide what action I want to take. False teeth, screw
in plates, etc etc etc.

I guess once all my teeth are gone, I'll know if it was my teeth or not, causing me
to smell smoke. It's a very weird thing.
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#6 by lotoole » Thu Apr 07, 2016 01:06

The connection between the dental issues and smelling odd odors does make some sense. I've read where dental issues can result in bacteria spreading throughout your body and that includes your brain or even heart valves. It can be a serious health issue so I really hope you can take care of the dental problems soon.
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#7 by valerie » Thu Apr 07, 2016 01:22

lotoole wrote: The connection between the dental issues and smelling odd odors does make some sense. I've read where dental issues can result in bacteria spreading throughout your body and that includes your brain or even heart valves. It can be a serious health issue so I really hope you can take care of the dental problems soon.

Yes, I think it is a strong possibility it could be dental related. For starters, the time frame in
which I started smelling smoke. It started approximately two years ago and that is about the
same time frame I started having dental issues. Most of the teeth I have had extracted, has
been over the course of the last few years and especially the last two years.
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#8 by oberder » Thu Apr 07, 2016 08:17

:?: Phantom smoke?

Well in my country, one considers the belief that the smell of flowers or burning candle wax as a visit from the deceased; if one smells flowers ( or faint sweet odors ), it's a good sign, a peaceful visit/presence -- but if it's the scent of burning candle wax, it's a troubled soul making a visit ( or something that isn't related to your family ) where a lot of prayers will be needed to help it on it's way

*shrug* ...just tossing in my two cents ;)
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#9 by zegon » Thu Apr 07, 2016 08:40

Getting rid of all the teeth may not be as fun, but to get rid of some referrals is probably worse.
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#10 by jjohnson777 » Thu Apr 07, 2016 09:44

valerie wrote:
lotoole wrote: The connection between the dental issues and smelling odd odors does make some sense. I've read where dental issues can result in bacteria spreading throughout your body and that includes your brain or even heart valves. It can be a serious health issue so I really hope you can take care of the dental problems soon.

Yes, I think it is a strong possibility it could be dental related. For starters, the time frame in
which I started smelling smoke. It started approximately two years ago and that is about the
same time frame I started having dental issues. Most of the teeth I have had extracted, has
been over the course of the last few years and especially the last two years.

Most my top teeth in front gone & few my front are gone too on bottom. Most expensive part getting dentures is the pulling of teeth so plan wait until can not eat worse before get them so more affordable. Mean the dentures are few hundred to little over thousand depending on type and pulling of teeth are $4000-5000 depending on number be pulled. If was not for health insurance doubling or tripling every 3-4 years could afford get it done. Mean I was paying $200 a month pre-Obamacare now paying $600 a month. Year of increased premiums just about cover it.
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#11 by sp1915 » Thu Apr 07, 2016 12:00

Are root canals/crowns an option for you Valerie? I wondered myself at what point do you throw in the towel and just get dentures. I have 5 front teeth on the lower with one back tooth. I wear a partial denture and now one of those in the front needs a root canal/crown.
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#12 by valerie » Thu Apr 07, 2016 13:31

sp1915 wrote: Are root canals/crowns an option for you Valerie? I wondered myself at what point do you throw in the towel and just get dentures. I have 5 front teeth on the lower with one back tooth. I wear a partial denture and now one of those in the front needs a root canal/crown.

No I won't go that route. I am throwing in the towel.

My local dentist strongly suggested I go with a partial for the bottom.
Over a year ago, he quoted a price of just over $1,000 to remove all the bottom teeth except for the
two vampire teeth and a couple of others. I decided not to go that route and glad I didn't because
now in reality, all of them on bottom need to go except the two vampire teeth....and I don't see any
point in keeping those either. (that price included the partial)

I'm considering bottom dentures that screw into the gum line. I think they place about 3 to 6 screws.
That way, you never remove the denture and brush them as you would normal teeth. I haven't visited
that dentist yet to see what he says.

In the mean time, I have simply been going to the dentist every few months and having him pull one
out that is becoming bothersome enough to do so.

They say that a bottom denture just flops around in your mouth and people always strongly suggest
to go another route....such as a partial. I don't want to spend money on a partial and then a year or
two later, have those teeth removed and pay money for a new partial. I know there are some partials
in which teeth can be added to them.....more expensive I suppose.

I am out about $115.00 every time I go to my local dentist for a tooth extraction and X-ray. He
is X-ray happy. $95 to pull the tooth and $20 for the X-ray.
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#13 by sp1915 » Thu Apr 07, 2016 14:50

Thanks for your feedback. I haven't decided which way to go but having a bottom denture flopping around is a concern as well. The bottom dentures that screw into the gum line sounds like a good choice to avoid that.

I bet when all is said and done, your teeth will be just beautiful. :)
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#14 by Micshad » Thu Apr 07, 2016 16:08

valerie wrote: I know this is going to sound crazy but thought I'd ask anyway.

To tell you the truth, I was absolutely shocked to find an enormous
amount of posts all over the internet of people smelling phantom
smoke.

It is very annoying to say the least. The good part is, it does go
away after some days or some weeks. Months will pass and I don't
smell it and then there it is again. It is a very heavy nauseating
aroma.

I continue to research it from time to time and I found a post of
a woman stating she figured it out......she says it is her dead
grandmother visiting her. :shock:



Oh, thank heavens!!!! I thought I was the only one!! I used to smoke 3 packs a day and wanted to quit but couldn't even though I tried 6 times over the years. I used to joke that the only time it didn't bother me not to smoke was when I was in the hospital. Little did I know I would be forced to quit when hospitalized for 3 weeks. That cured me! (That was almost 5 years ago).

Anyway, ever since then, ever so often, I smell cigarette smoke in the house. My mom was a heavy smoker until she died as was my husband's mother. His mother was also a heavy patchoulli user (keep insects away). Every so often, I would get a whiff of patchoulli in the new house (I didn't use it) and after mom died, cigarette smoke (she lived with us for some years).

i still get whiffs of both but not as often as before. His mother has been gone 35 years now and my mom 16 years.

So, you're not alone in this. To me, it says that they're watching over us. ;)
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#15 by Micshad » Thu Apr 07, 2016 16:19

valerie wrote:
lotoole wrote: The connection between the dental issues and smelling odd odors does make some sense. I've read where dental issues can result in bacteria spreading throughout your body and that includes your brain or even heart valves. It can be a serious health issue so I really hope you can take care of the dental problems soon.

Yes, I think it is a strong possibility it could be dental related. For starters, the time frame in
which I started smelling smoke. It started approximately two years ago and that is about the
same time frame I started having dental issues. Most of the teeth I have had extracted, has
been over the course of the last few years and especially the last two years.


Don't wanna scare you but it may not be dental. I had all of mine extracted back in early 90s. Doc said I had no bone to support my teeth and the best thing to do is get em all out. Wish I would've gotten a second opinion. I never had any cavities and only had 1 loose tooth. I started smelling the smoke in early 2000 after mom died.

I hate not having real teeth. I can't do anything with my dentures. I definitely can't eat with them so we never go out to eat anymore. I wear the top plate when I go some place but the bottoms never fit right and this is my second set of top and bottoms. The first set never fit right. They were so loose I needed to use glue to hold them in and they hurt all the time. The worse part was that I was a receptionist and needed to have that sparkly smile. I answered the phone one day and my bottoms fell out! How embarrassing! I had someone different for my second set and the tops fit great but the bottoms still want to fall out so I don't wear them.

If you can afford them, I'd go for implants...but I'd try to keep the real teeth as long as you can.
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#16 by S_Abbott » Thu Apr 07, 2016 19:55

Some years back, I had a massive infection in my shoulder. Which resulted in half my shoulder being taken out. Apparently, it had exacerbated my teeth, also. Even though I had 4 months of antibiotics after the surgery, 28 teeth had to be surgically removed. Before they went, I had that phantom smoke thing. Was very annoying.

As to the dental implant thing, I have the posts on bottom. 2 of them. Cost $2,477 each. Not paid by my insurance company. The cost for the full dentures, including the special made for bottom was over $2,500 after my insurance paid. Since my mouth is so small, it took them 3 times to get the dental molds done right. And I had to take in a bit of that cost, too.

The one thing to remember is you have to take special care of the posts. So yes, you have to take out the denture they hold. Calcium, plaque, and food do build up even though it's a tight fit. And unfortunately, the denture that has the bands can only be cleaned for a very short amount of time. The cleansers are too harsh. Now this could be just what was done on my particular ones, it could be different where you go.

Nonetheless, it's costly, even with insurance.

If you can get Care Credit, or a special pricing from your dentist, it'll help. Luckily, our dentist did let us pay on time for some of the work, then we went over to Care Credit (although those payments are very high to avoid finance charge).

As far as keeping your teeth, if any at all are bad, they're only going to get worse. While I hate the dentures (they made my crooked smile go away), I'm happy finally with the fit and general look, and no more pain.

A friend of mine kept putting off dental work, she's in her early 40's, she wound up with a major heart condition, high blood pressure, and diabetes...all caused by the toxins her teeth produced. So she's had dental surgery, her chest cracked open to work on her heart, and is having a heck of a time trying to get her A1C normal. Her vision has been affected, too. She's in a mess.
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#17 by valerie » Thu Apr 07, 2016 20:34

@sp1915 Yes, I am considering the bottom denture that screws in. I haven't taken the time out
to research it enough or to talk to the dentist that does that, but I plan to.

@Micshad I started smoking when I was ten years old. I suppose I was about 16 years old when
I started smoking more on a regular basis. I married at 17 so at that time, I was probably smoking
about a pack per day. There were a few times I had quit over the years such as during pregnancy.
I quit a very long time ago, around the time they first introduced the prescription patches. I worked
in a hospital and I knew most the doctors so even tho it was great insurance, I received everything
free anyway, even my prescriptions. I was very dedicated to quiting and the patches did help as I
probably wouldn't have been able to without them.

Yes, dental issues can cause a lot of things to go awry in your body. Heart problems and even these
phantom ghost smells of smoke. I smell it right now. YES, it could of course be something else, not
my teeth that are causing this annoying aroma. It could be totally sinus related. They say that polyps
in the nasal cavity causes phantom smoke aroma too. Brain cancer is a biggie as often people with
brain tumors report smelling strong smoke.

Just to look at my teeth casually, you wouldn't notice anything wrong with them. Some people when
they smile, their gums show. My gums do not show. My point is gingivitis is taking over and some
of the teeth are beginning to elongate from the gums. It's just not noticeable unless you pry my
mouth wide open and pull down on my gums. :lol:

@Susy_A No, I don't have dental insurance and I will just pay for it 50/50 or whatever their
terms are for pay half now half afterward. By the time I decide what type of teeth to get, I will
have probably already paid for all the extraction on the bottom. I'm not too concerned at the
moment in regards to the top, I think those will last mostly for a few more years.

I would think implanted teeth ..... tooth by tooth, would be very expensive. I remember my
friend way back in high school one summer she was life guarding at a resort beach during the
summer break. She missed a rail climbing up to the lifeguard stand and hit her top teeth. She
had a couple of teeth replaced and they were CEMENTED in. I thought that so odd when she
told me they had cemented in a couple of teeth. That was way back in the 70's.

Yeah, I always had very nice looking teeth and I am looking forward to some BRIGHT WHITE
new teeth.

Oh.....my grandmother could never wear her teeth to eat. She would take them out when we
would go out to eat. One time she left them on the table and fortunately the waiter did see
them wrapped in the napkin and did not throw them away. :mrgreen:
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#18 by tasman1 » Thu Apr 07, 2016 21:48

phantom smell could mean something serious,” says the psychiatrist and nationally recognized smell and taste expert. “It absolutely needs to be evaluated. It could be a tumor – that’s on the top of your list of things to rule out – but it could also be a cyst or some infectious agent housed in the area of the brain where the smell is processed.”

Common olfactory hallucinations include lots of icky odors. Sufferers report smelling hydrogen sulfide (rotten eggs), bad perfume, garbage, a gas leak, wet dog, pungent body odor or spoiled fish or feces. The brain may trigger such sickening odors instead of agreeable ones because humans learned very early to avoid noxious smells for survival.
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#19 by jjohnson777 » Thu Apr 07, 2016 22:34

Implanted teeth are very expensive. My mom has dry mouth due Rxs she is on. She gets tens of thousands of dental work yearly. So much so the dentist gives her the best rates. She is seeing the 3rd generation of family ran practice. She gets few implants, crowns, and root canals yearly.

I refused see dentists since she loves scaring me every time I about ready to see one.
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#20 by valerie » Fri Apr 08, 2016 00:14

jjohnson777 wrote: Implanted teeth are very expensive. My mom has dry mouth due Rxs she is on. She gets tens of thousands of dental work yearly. So much so the dentist gives her the best rates. She is seeing the 3rd generation of family ran practice. She gets few implants, crowns, and root canals yearly.

I refused see dentists since she loves scaring me every time I about ready to see one.

Why?

I just wouldn't go thru all that. Why doesn't she just get dentures and be done with it?

That may be what I end up doing, just going with dentures. If I was actually working
offline and/or dealing with a lot of people every day, I would do something differently.
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